Sleeve focus thread

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05-10-2018, 01:38 PM (This post was last modified: 05-10-2018, 01:42 PM by Koen G.)

Alright so I'll start proposing data points, adding what I can derive from your map and some examples I had set aside myself.

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Morgan MS M.396, Northeastern France, 1425-1430, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Morgan MS M.453, Paris, 1425-1430, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Morgan MS M.245, Paris, 1405, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Harley 4431, Paris, 1410-1414, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Devonshire Hunting Tapestries, South Netherlands, 1425-1430, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Pal. Lat. 1806, Augsburg, 1400-1430 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Bibliothèque de l'Arsenal, Ms-5193 réserve, Paris, 1411, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
BnF, MS Fr. 23279, Paris, 1410, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
BNF, MS Fr. 12420, Paris, 1403, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
BNF, MS Fr. 616, Paris, 1407, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Obviously incomplete - which ones from your set am I missing? I just did a rudimentary sort by holding library. Also it looks like I fell into a BNF pool so examples from other regions must still be provided.

The evolution of Phebus MSS is quite interesting. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. was made in 1390, Toulouse under Phebus' supervision. No baggy sleeves, most of the men have their sleeves rolled up. Then 17 years later the manuscript is copied in Paris (BNF 616) only now all men are baggy-sleeved dandies.

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Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 04-10-2018, 09:04 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 05-10-2018, 03:56 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 05-10-2018, 12:22 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 05-10-2018, 01:15 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 05-10-2018, 01:20 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 05-10-2018, 01:38 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by nablator - 05-10-2018, 06:03 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 05-10-2018, 03:09 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 05-10-2018, 03:21 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 05-10-2018, 03:41 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Diane - 05-10-2018, 06:05 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 05-10-2018, 07:55 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 05-10-2018, 09:44 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 05-10-2018, 10:08 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 06-10-2018, 12:55 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 06-10-2018, 12:50 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 06-10-2018, 04:56 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 06-10-2018, 02:41 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 06-10-2018, 03:06 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 06-10-2018, 03:23 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by MarcoP - 06-10-2018, 04:45 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 06-10-2018, 05:06 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 07-10-2018, 07:38 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 11-10-2018, 11:35 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 11-10-2018, 11:41 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 11-10-2018, 11:46 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by davidjackson - 11-10-2018, 06:05 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 11-10-2018, 07:25 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 12-10-2018, 03:11 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 14-10-2018, 12:17 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 14-10-2018, 04:51 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by davidjackson - 14-10-2018, 09:02 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 15-10-2018, 02:14 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 15-10-2018, 11:10 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 15-10-2018, 03:13 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 16-10-2018, 08:04 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 16-10-2018, 10:37 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 17-10-2018, 04:18 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 18-10-2018, 05:28 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 18-10-2018, 06:09 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 18-10-2018, 06:44 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 18-10-2018, 07:09 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by davidjackson - 18-10-2018, 07:30 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 18-10-2018, 09:14 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 19-10-2018, 04:45 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by davidjackson - 19-10-2018, 08:47 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 19-11-2018, 09:16 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by ReneZ - 20-11-2018, 05:51 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 20-11-2018, 09:48 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by nablator - 20-11-2018, 05:02 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Wladimir D - 20-11-2018, 02:24 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by davidjackson - 20-11-2018, 08:07 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 20-11-2018, 08:09 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by MarcoP - 07-04-2019, 08:53 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 07-04-2019, 11:43 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 07-04-2019, 01:56 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 07-04-2019, 03:46 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 11-06-2019, 10:08 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 11-06-2019, 09:25 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 11-06-2019, 09:43 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 11-06-2019, 10:25 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 12-06-2019, 10:04 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 12-06-2019, 10:13 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Helmut Winkler - 12-06-2019, 10:57 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 12-06-2019, 12:38 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by nablator - 19-06-2019, 04:07 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by bi3mw - 08-07-2019, 05:31 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Linda - 08-07-2019, 06:30 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 08-07-2019, 07:05 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by bi3mw - 08-07-2019, 10:19 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 08-07-2019, 10:40 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Linda - 09-07-2019, 12:09 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by bi3mw - 09-07-2019, 11:52 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Linda - 09-07-2019, 12:24 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 09-07-2019, 11:57 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Linda - 09-07-2019, 12:32 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 09-07-2019, 12:53 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by RobGea - 09-07-2019, 06:48 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Linda - 09-07-2019, 07:08 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 09-07-2019, 11:54 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 10-07-2019, 02:32 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 11-07-2019, 09:58 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Linda - 12-07-2019, 12:25 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by bi3mw - 12-07-2019, 11:39 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 12-07-2019, 12:16 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by bi3mw - 12-07-2019, 12:29 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 13-07-2019, 10:59 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by bi3mw - 14-07-2019, 12:09 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 04-10-2019, 10:59 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 05-10-2019, 01:23 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by MarcoP - 05-10-2019, 07:26 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 05-10-2019, 07:28 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by arca_libraria - 06-10-2019, 04:40 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by -JKP- - 10-10-2019, 04:21 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by R. Sale - 10-10-2019, 09:45 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 17-11-2020, 09:09 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Mark Knowles - 12-11-2022, 06:37 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Mark Knowles - 14-11-2022, 10:47 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Koen G - 14-11-2022, 11:49 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Mark Knowles - 14-11-2022, 11:52 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Mark Knowles - 14-11-2022, 12:03 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Mark Knowles - 14-11-2022, 04:30 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Mark Knowles - 14-11-2022, 03:37 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Mark Knowles - 14-11-2022, 03:45 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Mark Knowles - 14-11-2022, 05:52 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Mark Knowles - 14-11-2022, 06:16 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by R. Sale - 14-11-2022, 08:00 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Mark Knowles - 14-11-2022, 08:05 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by R. Sale - 14-11-2022, 08:27 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Mark Knowles - 14-11-2022, 08:32 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by R. Sale - 03-12-2022, 07:50 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Juan_Sali - 16-12-2022, 03:34 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by R. Sale - 16-12-2022, 07:24 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by merrimacga - 09-06-2023, 10:45 AM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by nablator - 09-06-2023, 12:04 PM

RE: Sleeve focus thread - by Juan_Sali - 22-05-2025, 11:45 PM

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