Stop being analitical!
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(22-07-2018, 09:49 PM)Emma May Smith wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I'm sorry that I have to restate the problem but your answer is not good enough: you've claimed that k and t are variants based on the space available yet the patterns I've pointed out show this claim doesn't make sense.

Let me make this very, very clear:
a) you claim that k is used in place of t where there is less space*; yet
b) when k and t are prefixed with o, both become more frequent; thus
c) less space does not lead to more k and less t; yet
d) t becomes less frequent than k when prefixed with qo; thus
e) there's actually a different pattern which causes the relative frequencies of k and t.

Please don't both answering if you won't address which of the points a)-e) are wrong.

*This is what you wrote earlier:

Quote:The reason for this pattern is the shape of the glyphs. k and f need less space then t and p. The additional curve at the top is the reason that t is preferred over k at the beginning of a line or word. There is simply enough space since there is no other character in front to interfere with.

One observation was that when k and t are prefixed with o, both become more frequent. My explanation for this observation was that this happens since o + d is normally transformed into o + gallow. 

The other observation was that t becomes less frequent than k when prefixed with qo-. My answer for this observation was that t has the tendency to be more common in line initial position then expected.

Now you argue that this two explanations would contradict each other. 

If we look to the statistics for words in line initial position we see that in this position words starting with  o- are more common than words starting with qo-:

tar ( 15) otar (  6)  qotar (  3)
tal (  2) otal ( 11)  qotal (  2)

One factor is therefore  that t is preferred in line initial position and qo- is not. But this is indeed not the only reason. Another reason is that qo- is far more common in Currier B and that most of the qo- words in Currier B are starting with qok-. Words starting with qok- are therefore in general more common then words starting with qot-:

okaiin (212) qokaiin (262)   otaiin (154) qotaiin (79)
okain  (144) qokain  (279)   otain  ( 96) qotain  (64)
okar   (129) qokar   (152)   otar   (141) qotar   (63)
okal   (138) qokal   (191)   otal   (143) qotal   (59)
okor   ( 34) qokor   ( 36)   otor   ( 46) qotor   (29)
okol   ( 82) qokol   (104)   otol   ( 86) qotol   (47)
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Stop being analitical! - by davidjackson - 08-07-2018, 10:25 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Koen G - 08-07-2018, 10:49 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Emma May Smith - 08-07-2018, 11:17 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by -JKP- - 09-07-2018, 01:01 AM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Common_Man - 09-07-2018, 03:20 AM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by farmerjohn - 09-07-2018, 10:01 AM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by davidjackson - 15-07-2018, 12:11 AM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by bi3mw - 15-07-2018, 11:52 AM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Torsten - 21-07-2018, 01:23 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Emma May Smith - 22-07-2018, 10:18 AM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Torsten - 22-07-2018, 01:45 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Emma May Smith - 22-07-2018, 02:25 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Torsten - 22-07-2018, 03:56 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by MarcoP - 22-07-2018, 03:35 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by -JKP- - 22-07-2018, 02:03 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Emma May Smith - 22-07-2018, 04:07 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Torsten - 22-07-2018, 05:00 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Emma May Smith - 22-07-2018, 05:07 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Torsten - 22-07-2018, 06:26 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Emma May Smith - 22-07-2018, 06:42 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Torsten - 22-07-2018, 08:48 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Common_Man - 22-07-2018, 04:37 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by davidjackson - 22-07-2018, 06:04 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Emma May Smith - 22-07-2018, 09:49 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Torsten - 23-07-2018, 12:37 AM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by nablator - 23-07-2018, 10:21 AM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by -JKP- - 23-07-2018, 10:44 AM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by nablator - 23-07-2018, 11:02 AM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by ReneZ - 23-07-2018, 11:23 AM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Torsten - 23-07-2018, 03:22 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Emma May Smith - 23-07-2018, 07:26 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Torsten - 23-07-2018, 09:31 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Davidsch - 25-07-2018, 01:36 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Common_Man - 25-07-2018, 03:50 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Emma May Smith - 25-07-2018, 04:24 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Torsten - 26-07-2018, 10:58 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by nablator - 27-07-2018, 11:59 AM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Common_Man - 27-07-2018, 01:25 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Torsten - 27-07-2018, 06:24 PM
RE: Stop being analitical! - by Davidsch - 02-08-2018, 03:29 PM

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