(07-06-2018, 09:53 PM)Koen Gh. wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Thanks, Marco, those are quite impressive. If you add some numerals to the second one you almost get full coverage. It's interesting that we always end up in scripts with positional variation as well.
But what are we to make of the fact that those MSS are quite late? I'm getting some weird ideas that involve primacy of the image and later additions...
Those shapes are found all the way back to the Carolingian scripts, but the way they are rendered in the late 14th century and 15th centuries (with a slant and without the serifs) is more consistent with the way they are rendered in the VMS. This form of Gothic cursive was emerging between 1350 and 1400 (and became more like the later text by 1390) and was on the wane by the early 1500s when humanist scripts superseded the loopy (and ugly) Gothic cursive.
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Since it is directly relevant to this thread, I dragged out one of my draft articles on ris/cis/tis (and pics I hadn't previously had time to insert) and posted it just now. It's a follow-up to a previous post on ris/cis/tis with more examples. You can find it here:
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I have a dozen draft articles on these very topics. I just need to insert the clips, which always seems to take more time than one would expect.

