07-12-2017, 05:35 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-12-2017, 05:45 AM by Diane.
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I gather your diagram is a response to my noting, above, that for medieval Latin Europe, aether was not one of the four elements which composed the world of humankind, but a material of the outer, divine sphere. It's a nice illustration of that fact of history, though we hardly need to illustrate it, it is so well known. But thanks for the support.
In a recent post (30th.Nov. 2017), I also illustrated the same with in image from BNF fr.565, a manuscript which has been a current topic of late, so I add that below.
I provided a detailed analysis and explanation for You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. when treating that section of the ms. The initial post went up on 25th.October, 2012, and additional technical information, textual references and so forth were provided in a later post called 'You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.' (31st October 2016).
Hope it helps move this topic forward a little, because I agree it is not easy to change from seeing this unusual imagery as if it were part of mainstream Latin culture and understand it as did the makers and the people for whom it was originally made. They, obviously, knew the word 'hyle' and their philosophy imagined the world formed of 5 elements, listed in the order shown in that diagram. (as I've explained in more detail in those posts)
I should be clear, though, that I have not found anything in the manuscript to suggest the practices of astrology. I'd call it astronomical in the looser sense, and I would expect the imagery to reflect cultural associations for the various stars and constellations, and perhaps some sort of moralia.
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I gather your diagram is a response to my noting, above, that for medieval Latin Europe, aether was not one of the four elements which composed the world of humankind, but a material of the outer, divine sphere. It's a nice illustration of that fact of history, though we hardly need to illustrate it, it is so well known. But thanks for the support.
In a recent post (30th.Nov. 2017), I also illustrated the same with in image from BNF fr.565, a manuscript which has been a current topic of late, so I add that below.
I provided a detailed analysis and explanation for You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. when treating that section of the ms. The initial post went up on 25th.October, 2012, and additional technical information, textual references and so forth were provided in a later post called 'You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.' (31st October 2016).
Hope it helps move this topic forward a little, because I agree it is not easy to change from seeing this unusual imagery as if it were part of mainstream Latin culture and understand it as did the makers and the people for whom it was originally made. They, obviously, knew the word 'hyle' and their philosophy imagined the world formed of 5 elements, listed in the order shown in that diagram. (as I've explained in more detail in those posts)
I should be clear, though, that I have not found anything in the manuscript to suggest the practices of astrology. I'd call it astronomical in the looser sense, and I would expect the imagery to reflect cultural associations for the various stars and constellations, and perhaps some sort of moralia.
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