[Panel Session] Cryptologic History panel Oct. 19, 2017
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(20-11-2017, 09:21 AM)-JKP- wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(19-11-2017, 08:14 PM)proto57 wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.And many of these points can be used for the converse, such as "Why the anatomically incorrect animals?", or "rare depictions" of the Zodiac, or whatever- well a genuine work can have them, but error, anomalies, are actually another red flag of forgery.


They are anatomically incorrect, or unusually expressed, in very specific ways that would not come into the mind of a forger or benefit a forger in any way.

Absolutely no one draws two crayfish for Cancer and it would take longer for a forger to add the extraneous one, more time and energy and less profit. You will have a very hard time convincing me that this specific kind of addition is a flag of forgery, especially when some of these additions are thematically consistent with one another.


There are other examples, but this gives the basic idea of what I mean.

Well I'm not sure that there is any specific, definable, habit of a forger... the range of ability and invention, from perfect replica, through inspired modifications, to outright wild invention, are all apparent in that world. And if you include the world of artistic creations, "all bets are off", because certainly there has been nothing out of bounds in that genre. The Codex Seraphinianus is often cited in Voynich discussions... not a forgery, not a hoax, but an artistic creation.

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For one to say such imagination would not apply to any forgery, but only to art? One could, but I don't personally see any reason there can be a crossover, which is how I see the Voynich: A wild exercise, a highly imaginative artistic fake. It does not, in my opinion, have to be "all one or all another".

You may enjoy reading more about the world of fakes, and if you do, you will see many examples of very imaginative ones:

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The thing that one quickly learns is that there are no rules for forgery. Anything you can imagine has been tried, and for countless reasons (not just profit), and every technique, skill, method, have all bee a part of this world. There is really no way to define what would, and would not, be done in a fake, I mean.
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RE: Cryptologic History panel Oct. 19, 2017 - by proto57 - 20-11-2017, 04:05 PM

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