19-11-2017, 08:02 PM
(19-11-2017, 04:20 PM)VViews wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hello proto57,
I don't want to take a side in this debate, but just wanted to address your first point.
ReneZ is correct in stating that there has been an effort to not have past conflicts dragged onto this forum. It is not a forum rule but reflects the fact that the likelihood of such conflicts yielding anything productive here is very low, and also that these things tend to rapidly devolve into personal attacks due to years of accumulated resentment.
He is also correct to note that this is difficult to do in reality. Understandably, there will always be references to the Voynich discussions that took place elsewhere, and also the effects of past conflicts strain relations between the posters that were involved.
So, don't worry about censorship here, and please do post freely. Just try to be mindful about the effects of posts: will they further the discussion?
As someone who has not been part of the mailing list since the early 2000's, it is really off-putting when I see posters here ranting about things that happened back there. Sometimes, posts can be so laden with resentful references to the past that the actual research or questions contained in the post are drowned out (I don't mean this specifically for you).
It seems to me your post boils down to one thing, which should be a fairly straightforward question to answer:
- Is the McCrone report containing the radiocarbon results available in its entirety, and if so, can someone please post a link to it? If not, is there any way we, the forum members, can find a way to make it available?
Well I would point out that I didn't bring past conflicts here... Rene did, in leveling his old charges against me, on this forum, which I needed to address. As I pointed out, it is the only reason I came here in the first place. When he is not doing that, no conflict. It is simple to avoid.... simply be truthful about my word. I'm not wanting conflict anywhere, only correction.
As for the McCrone report with the radiocarbon results... you mean the University of Arizona Report on the radiocarbon of course... McCrone was responsible only for the ink report. But yes, I am with you entirely on this... I have worked behind the scenes for some time to try and get it released, and came pretty close on one occasion. Rene would be our best bet to see it, at this point... perhaps he will oblige, or explain why not.

