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Central European origin
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(30-10-2017, 07:29 PM)Anton wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.As for origin, it's important to distinguish between "production origin" and "content origin". Like, if I publish Milton, production origin is Moscow, Russia, while content origin is London, England. Did not follow the discussion in detail, but not sure the two are not messed in the discussion. If I understand correctly, the experts above quoted are judging by the content, so their assessment is of the origin of the content (or parts thereof). While DNA tests could point only to the place of production.

Hi Anton,
I agree on the importance of the distinction you describe. In most cases, the two origins are largely coincident, but in other cases they aren't.

Panofsky's position in 1954 was:
Quote:My guess is that the manuscript was produced in Germany, which is supported by the fact that the goat’s milk sentence is continuous with the text of at least the last page of the manuscript.
So he was guessing the place of production on the basis of Salomon's observations on (marginal) content.

The manuscript was likely produced in a single place (or in a limited area), while it can easily incorporate influences from several places. Panofsky's earlier observations suggested that he was open to various influences (Spanish/Provencal, Jewish/Arabic, Dutch/Flemish) contributing to the illustrations. On the textual level, Italian astrological treaties often incorporated information from Greek and Arabic sources. Anyway, in many cases the place of origin often contributes to the content (e.g. your edition of Milton might include a Russian translation or introduction).
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Central European origin - by ReneZ - 29-10-2017, 11:13 AM
RE: Cental European origin - by MarcoP - 30-10-2017, 03:08 PM
RE: Cental European origin - by Anton - 30-10-2017, 07:29 PM
RE: Cental European origin - by MarcoP - 30-10-2017, 08:09 PM
RE: Cental European origin - by davidjackson - 30-10-2017, 07:52 PM
RE: Cental European origin - by Diane - 08-11-2017, 11:43 PM
RE: Cental European origin - by Aga Tentakulus - 26-12-2019, 10:36 AM
RE: Cental European origin - by bi3mw - 26-12-2019, 12:23 PM
RE: Cental European origin - by Aga Tentakulus - 26-12-2019, 01:03 PM
RE: Cental European origin - by voynichbombe - 26-12-2019, 10:03 PM
RE: Cental European origin - by ReneZ - 27-12-2019, 06:58 AM
RE: Cental European origin - by Aga Tentakulus - 26-12-2019, 10:39 PM
RE: Cental European origin - by voynichbombe - 26-12-2019, 11:09 PM
RE: Cental European origin - by Aga Tentakulus - 26-12-2019, 11:18 PM
RE: Cental European origin - by voynichbombe - 26-12-2019, 11:35 PM
RE: Cental European origin - by Aga Tentakulus - 26-12-2019, 11:48 PM
RE: Cental European origin - by Aga Tentakulus - 27-12-2019, 12:03 AM
RE: Cental European origin - by Aga Tentakulus - 27-12-2019, 12:07 AM
RE: Cental European origin - by voynichbombe - 27-12-2019, 12:20 AM
RE: Cental European origin - by -JKP- - 27-12-2019, 01:18 AM
RE: Cental European origin - by ReneZ - 27-12-2019, 07:01 AM
RE: Cental European origin - by voynichbombe - 27-12-2019, 12:32 AM
RE: Cental European origin - by Aga Tentakulus - 27-12-2019, 09:35 AM
RE: Cental European origin - by -JKP- - 27-12-2019, 09:50 AM
RE: Cental European origin - by Aga Tentakulus - 27-12-2019, 09:53 AM
RE: Cental European origin - by voynichbombe - 27-12-2019, 05:45 PM
RE: Central European origin - by Anton - 03-01-2020, 11:17 PM
RE: Central European origin - by R. Sale - 13-01-2020, 11:48 PM
RE: Central European origin - by Aga Tentakulus - 19-03-2020, 09:32 AM
RE: Central European origin - by davidjackson - 25-03-2020, 09:59 PM
RE: Central European origin - by Aga Tentakulus - 26-03-2020, 09:01 AM
RE: Central European origin - by Aga Tentakulus - 26-03-2020, 09:20 AM
RE: Central European origin - by Aga Tentakulus - 28-03-2020, 06:22 AM
RE: Central European origin - by Dobri - 19-01-2025, 08:19 AM
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