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"Choe" is weird. - Bluetoes101 - 02-10-2026
I find Choe weird as e* (e followed by anything) happens 14263 times (Voynichese.com), egallows accounts for 833 - 5.84%
1. <f1v.7,+P0> choees - This one is actually "chores", discounted it from %
2. <f8r.6,+P0> choety
3. <f8r.9,*P0> tchoep
4. <f18v.5,+P0> ychoees
5. <f20r.6,+P0> choees
6. <f29r.7,+P0> choety
7. <f42r.12,+P0> choeky
8. <f43r.5,+P0> choetchy
9. <f54r.12,+P0> choek
10. <f66r.55,+P0> choekeey
11. <f67r2.49,+Pb> choer
12 . <f67r2.50,+Pb> choeea
13. <f68v3.5,@Cc> choekcheey
14. <f68v3.14,@Cc> choekey
15. <f69r.3,+P0> choetey
16. <f70r1.2,@Cc> choekeeos
17. <f70r2.16,+Cc> choeky
18. <f70r2.17,+Cc> choetchaldy
19. <f70v2.1,@Cc> choeteedy
20. <f72v3.1,@Cc> choepchey
21. <f87v.7,+P0> qotechoep
22. <f88v.9,+P0> choeey
23. <f89v2.1,@Lc> choeesy
24. <f89v2.18,+P0> choeeer
25. <f106v.20,+P0> choefy
26. <f116r.15,+P0> pchoetal
When e is proceeded by cho the frequency of a gallows glyph following e jumps from 5.84% to 72%
It is also strange that 3 of 25 examples are double gallows words, which are extremely rare.
RE: "Choe" is weird. - davidma - 03-10-2026
(02-10-2026, 09:49 PM)Bluetoes101 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.1. <f1v.7,+P0> choees - This one is actually "chores", discounted it from %
2. <f8r.6,+P0> choety
3. <f8r.9,*P0> tchoep
4. <f18v.5,+P0> ychoees
5. <f20r.6,+P0> choees
6. <f29r.7,+P0> choety
7. <f42r.12,+P0> choeky
8. <f43r.5,+P0> choetchy
9. <f54r.12,+P0> choek
10. <f66r.55,+P0> choekeey
11. <f67r2.49,+Pb> choer
12 . <f67r2.50,+Pb> choeea
13. <f68v3.5,@Cc> choekcheey
14. <f68v3.14,@Cc> choekey
15. <f69r.3,+P0> choetey
16. <f70r1.2,@Cc> choekeeos
17. <f70r2.16,+Cc> choeky
18. <f70r2.17,+Cc> choetchaldy
19. <f70v2.1,@Cc> choeteedy
20. <f72v3.1,@Cc> choepchey
21. <f87v.7,+P0> qotechoep
22. <f88v.9,+P0> choeey
23. <f89v2.1,@Lc> choeesy
24. <f89v2.18,+P0> choeeer
25. <f106v.20,+P0> choefy
26. <f116r.15,+P0> pchoetal
Also interesting is that the few cases where choe is not followed by a gallow, it is followed by another e, apart from choer. And es seems to be a particularly popular follow up for that subset.
RE: "Choe" is weird. - Bluetoes101 - 03-10-2026
That is an interesting point. I guess it goes back to "is ee a single glyph?"
Then we get to, well.. it doesn't seem to act like e in this small sample size, maybe it does elsewhere.
I seem to remember Jorge doing something on this but I'm not certain. If not it seems a fun thing to look into.
RE: "Choe" is weird. - ComGro - 03-10-2026
nice finding.
your point actually would be even stronger if you would separate 'oe' , 'oee' , 'oeee' into fixed entities. (as arbitrary 'ain' family is sometimes)
if you use 'oe' , then 'choe + gallow' would be your 18 red marked gallows vs lonely <f67r2.49,+Pb> choer.
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