14th Century Provencal Herbal with similarities to the VMS

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14th Century Provencal Herbal with similarities to the VMS - JustAnotherTheory - 03-08-2026

The item in question is BNCF, Palatino 586, readable here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..

The imagery in this MS recalls a lot that of the VMS. Perhaps wew can find some clues as to the identity of some plants in the VMS from this.

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Could the VMS be inspired from a now lost Provencal/Occitan herbal source?

RE: 14th Century Provencal Herbal with similarities to the VMS - ololololo - 03-08-2026

As far as I remember, the connection with the Occitan herbalists was discussed on Nick Pelling's website.
There are indeed some similarities, but there is an explanation for this, as Occitania is quite close to Northern Italy...

RE: 14th Century Provencal Herbal with similarities to the VMS - DG97EEB - 03-08-2026

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RE: 14th Century Provencal Herbal with similarities to the VMS - DG97EEB - 03-08-2026

(03-08-2026, 07:21 AM)DG97EEB Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
It's not on my spreadsheet or database (and Beasley doesn't mention it either).. nice find.. and some of those roots in particular feel very familiar.

Looks like JKP looked at this a little You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. also attach Claude's deep research analysis

RE: 14th Century Provencal Herbal with similarities to the VMS - Koen G - 03-08-2026

Unless my memory is failing me, I believe this MS is mentioned regularly on the forum. Well, let's do a quick search using the simple search box.

Mentions of this MS on the forum:

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RE: 14th Century Provencal Herbal with similarities to the VMS - DG97EEB - 03-08-2026

Ok, ok.. point taken.. search isn't perfect anywhere unfortunately, mainly because I'm an idiot who can't use his tools properly...

I see the problem.. I wrote 268.. Confused

RE: 14th Century Provencal Herbal with similarities to the VMS - Ruby Novacna - 03-08-2026

Where can a transcription of this manuscript be found?