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Brescia Queriniana ms B.V.24 - Juan_Sali - 24-02-2026

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Image 181 is interesting vs VMS f33v.
   
The bottom left corner of the ms. B.V.24 is similar to the roots of the VMS f33v.
It is labelled as  hba stela (star herb).

RE: Brescia Queriniana ms B.V.24 - Juan_Sali - 24-02-2026

It aslo includes a charm (image 18)
   

RE: Brescia Queriniana ms B.V.24 - Skoove - 26-02-2026

I had never seen this manuscript and I agree it is very voynich-esque. 

I think that the plant roots and the colour annotations are the most interesting connection, especially little things like this     (perhaps Marco could tell us what this means?). 

I personally think that the VMS had more colour annotations and general writing within the roots and leaves (like this manuscript) before much of it was painted over. 


There are also some large red capitular which appear in combination with the smaller more common pilcrows, like that of VMS f1r. 
   


Do we have a more concrete date than 15th century for this MS? Do we know which tradition this manuscript is taking its plants from?

RE: Brescia Queriniana ms B.V.24 - MarcoP - 26-02-2026

(26-02-2026, 09:34 AM)Skoove Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(perhaps Marco could tell us what this means?). 

It's "v'de ciaro" = verde ciaro, "light green" in Venetian dialect ("verde chiaro" in Italian)

EDIT: it's scan image #34

RE: Brescia Queriniana ms B.V.24 - JoJo_Jost - 26-02-2026

@ You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.  Good find, there are many more similarities in the book! This could be exciting!

RE: Brescia Queriniana ms B.V.24 - Rafal - 27-02-2026

Quite similar to Voynich. Could really compete in "bad quality manuscripts" category  Big Grin



And it has even a spell/charm on the last page, just like Voynich:



   

nazaron + vinu puzu
nitzu(m) + bolus armenicus 

What ya saying dude?  Wink

I don't speak Latin but "bolus" seems to mean  "strike of luck" which would fit

bolus
1 throw of dice
2 hard piece of luck
3 choice bit
4 (fish net) catch, haul, profit

However "bolus armenicus" is a kind of clay used in medicine: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Gemini say it could mean in garbled language:

By the power of the Nazarene (+), take pure wine, mix with saltpeter and Armenian clay

RE: Brescia Queriniana ms B.V.24 - JustAnotherTheory - 27-02-2026

Here's another interesting occurrence:

   

RE: Brescia Queriniana ms B.V.24 - JustAnotherTheory - 27-02-2026

And another:

   

RE: Brescia Queriniana ms B.V.24 - JoJo_Jost - 27-02-2026

(27-02-2026, 02:25 PM)JustAnotherTheory Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.And another:

The question is, what kind of plant do we have here? It's not chickweed.


RE: Brescia Queriniana ms B.V.24 - JustAnotherTheory - 27-02-2026

Some very interesting sketches: