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RE: Oiin as a verb ending - Aga Tentakulus - 20-06-2022
@Helmut
I don't know Latin, I can only show you what the dictionary gives.
I can't tell you whether this is a dialect form.
RE: Oiin as a verb ending - Aga Tentakulus - 20-06-2022
@Rubi
I don't do that for a good reason.
I've already had this discussion lesson, and it doesn't do any good.
But as an example:
chiiv = entis = you are ( to be )
Examples and words are not to be used without context. It almost always works and only leads you down the wrong path.
um / unum is also a number word.
RE: Oiin as a verb ending - Ruby Novacna - 20-06-2022
Avez-vous essayé d’appliquer votre méthode à des mots autres que daiin/totis?
Have you tried applying your method to words other than daiin/totis?
RE: Oiin as a verb ending - Aga Tentakulus - 20-06-2022
To lots of them. As I said, it almost always works. But that alone is not enough to put it into context, there has to be something else, otherwise it doesn't work.
RE: Oiin as a verb ending - farmerjohn - 20-06-2022
(19-06-2022, 08:54 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(19-06-2022, 08:15 PM)farmerjohn Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.oiin is vīDo you mean "iin" is vi and "oiin" is ovi?
oiin as an alphabet element maps to vī.
oiin as a word maps to ovī, avī, etc. (I suppose some vowels were omitted when writing voynichese)
RE: Oiin as a verb ending - Ruby Novacna - 20-06-2022
(20-06-2022, 12:37 PM)farmerjohn Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.oiin as an alphabet element maps to vī.I find it complicated: how do the letters "v" and "i" at the beginning and in the middle of the words are written?
oiin as a word maps to ovī, avī, etc.
RE: Oiin as a verb ending - Ruby Novacna - 22-06-2022
Taking the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. to compare the endings -aiin and -oiin, I find that -aiin is rather specific to language B and -oiin to language A:
- Ytan 0
- Ytain 15 A/B 2/13
- Ytaiin 43 A/B 13/30
- Ytaiiin 0
- Yton 0
- Ytoin 0
- Ytoiin 4 A/B 3/1
- Ytoiiin 1 A.
This leads me to support the view that these two groups of endings can be equivalent. The question is whether this is the "language" effect or the "scribe" effect.
I personally hope that all these words refer to the same verb, conjugated or not.
RE: Oiin as a verb ending - Aga Tentakulus - 22-06-2022
I was on your side.
But what I don't understand is what is the root "yt". g8?
It's best if you bring a picture.
RE: Oiin as a verb ending - Ruby Novacna - 23-06-2022
Sorry, I didn't specify that it's in EVA, I worked with the ZL_ivtff_1r file, which I had taken from Rene's site and the voynechese.com site, I haven't looked at the page images yet.
RE: Oiin as a verb ending - Ruby Novacna - 24-06-2022
The inflection -oun also occurs in nouns: we can read, e.g. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. as βουν - accusative of βους- bullock, bull, ox and choiin as χουν - accusative of χους - a measure of capacity.