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(08-11-2016, 02:11 AM)stellar Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

(08-11-2016, 01:28 AM)Witch Mountain Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Most dear Stellar, I note interestingly that you did not answer a key point of dear Thomas' post displayed below. Could you tell us what you think of this? Many and many thanks!

(07-11-2016, 03:59 PM)ThomasCoon Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It's not surprising that your numerology fits each Zodiac sign - it's actually normal and inevitable. Let's say that you can't fit the standard word for "Gemini" in German or Welsh: you can then try "twin" "twins" "twin-brothers", "brothers", "siblings", and so on. Eventually, something will equal the number that you already know you need. When you see that you need 1 or a 6 or a 9, you can just go through all the possible related words, singulars and plurals, and alternate spellings (John vs. Iuan vs. Ieuan) until you finally get a match. Does that make sense?

Dear WitchMountain,

Thomas has not demonstrated that there is a German fit to the Zodiac using the cipher I created for the VMS.  Also the word must convey meaning from a label, picture or theme which would = a 3% chance.

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(08-11-2016, 01:28 AM)Witch Mountain Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Most dear Stellar, I note interestingly that you did not answer a key point of dear Thomas' post displayed below. Could you tell us what you think of this? Many and many thanks!

(07-11-2016, 03:59 PM)ThomasCoon Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It's not surprising that your numerology fits each Zodiac sign - it's actually normal and inevitable. Let's say that you can't fit the standard word for "Gemini" in German or Welsh: you can then try "twin" "twins" "twin-brothers", "brothers", "siblings", and so on. Eventually, something will equal the number that you already know you need. When you see that you need 1 or a 6 or a 9, you can just go through all the possible related words, singulars and plurals, and alternate spellings (John vs. Iuan vs. Ieuan) until you finally get a match. Does that make sense?

Dear WitchMountain,

Thomas has not demonstrated that there is a German fit to the Zodiac using the cipher I created for the VMS.  Also the word must convey meaning from a label, picture or theme which would = a 3% chance.

Most dear Stellar, it looks as if dear Thomas has now shown that your system can generate any language including German or Chinese, not only the Welsh of dearest John Dee. Since you got what you requested, can you now please answer this part of his post, which I will copy  below:

ThomasCoon wrote
It's not surprising that your numerology fits each Zodiac sign - it's actually normal and inevitable. Let's say that you can't fit the standard word for "Gemini" in German or Welsh: you can then try "twin" "twins" "twin-brothers", "brothers", "siblings", and so on. Eventually, something will equal the number that you already know you need. When you see that you need 1 or a 6 or a 9, you can just go through all the possible related words, singulars and plurals, and alternate spellings (John vs. Iuan vs. Ieuan) until you finally get a match. Does that make sense?

Quote:universal law. This also applies in part to his more conventional "Cabalism," using words and letters, in the Monas , while the way in which other standard objections — as those raised in the Cratylus — were thought to be adequately answered has already been discussed (90). It is interesting however that Roger Bacon relies on the same text as Dee cites in the prefatory letter, to justify such practises; writing "For the Lord says, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the alw till all be fulfilled. And therefore there is an admirable exposition in the book on the meanings of the scriptures stating how the individual letters of the Hebrew Alphabet had significance respecting the ancient people, and how they show the number of centuries through which the state of that race passed as regards its different periods and ages, in accordance with the special powers and potencies ofthe letters....I cannot sufficiently admire the manner in which the examination was derived, although it may seem to the uninitiated to have a weak basis in the letters of the alphabet which are the first rudiments of children. But according to the teaching of the Apostles lesser things are more necessary and are to be accorded greater honour...."(91) Bacon, as Dee here also, gives equal status to the Greek and Latin alphabets. Agrippa does the same, declaring that it is God who has given man discourse in different languages, of which the written characters have a fixed order, and particular shapes which are not the result of chance, or human invention, but divinely formed in accordance with the celestial bodies and angelic powers and the virtue of these. In a manner very close to the method of Dee's Monas , he attempts the reduction of letters to zodiacal and planetary signs (92).
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(08-11-2016, 04:25 PM)Witch Mountain Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Most dear Stellar, it looks as if dear Thomas has now shown that your system can generate any language including German or Chinese, not only the Welsh of dearest John Dee. Since you got what you requested, can you now please answer this part of his post, which I will copy  below:

ThomasCoon wrote
It's not surprising that your numerology fits each Zodiac sign - it's actually normal and inevitable. Let's say that you can't fit the standard word for "Gemini" in German or Welsh: you can then try "twin" "twins" "twin-brothers", "brothers", "siblings", and so on. Eventually, something will equal the number that you already know you need. When you see that you need 1 or a 6 or a 9, you can just go through all the possible related words, singulars and plurals, and alternate spellings (John vs. Iuan vs. Ieuan) until you finally get a match. Does that make sense?

He still fell short!

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(08-11-2016, 04:25 PM)Witch Mountain Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Most dear Stellar, it looks as if dear Thomas has now shown that your system can generate any language including German or Chinese, not only the Welsh of dearest John Dee. Since you got what you requested, can you now please answer this part of his post, which I will copy  below:

ThomasCoon wrote
It's not surprising that your numerology fits each Zodiac sign - it's actually normal and inevitable. Let's say that you can't fit the standard word for "Gemini" in German or Welsh: you can then try "twin" "twins" "twin-brothers", "brothers", "siblings", and so on. Eventually, something will equal the number that you already know you need. When you see that you need 1 or a 6 or a 9, you can just go through all the possible related words, singulars and plurals, and alternate spellings (John vs. Iuan vs. Ieuan) until you finally get a match. Does that make sense?

He still fell short!

Most dear Stellar, please look at the Chinese version, it is clear that most dear Thomas has a source for every word, which means that he has proven your system can result in other languages, not Welsh alone. So you must now answer his claim, which I will repost below:

ThomasCoon wrote
It's not surprising that your numerology fits each Zodiac sign - it's actually normal and inevitable. Let's say that you can't fit the standard word for "Gemini" in German or Welsh: you can then try "twin" "twins" "twin-brothers", "brothers", "siblings", and so on. Eventually, something will equal the number that you already know you need. When you see that you need 1 or a 6 or a 9, you can just go through all the possible related words, singulars and plurals, and alternate spellings (John vs. Iuan vs. Ieuan) until you finally get a match. Does that make sense?

Quote:(91) Bacon, as Dee here also, gives equal status to the Greek and Latin alphabets. Agrippa does the same, declaring that it is God who has given man discourse in different languages, of which the written characters have a fixed order, and particular shapes which are not the result of chance, or human invention, but divinely formed in accordance with the celestial bodies and angelic powers and the virtue of these. In a manner very close to the method of Dee's Monas , he attempts the reduction of letters to zodiacal and planetary signs (92).