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RE: Can we make isoglosses? - Bernd - 09-05-2023
Using goat milk to treat burns seems plausible but it is a very shaky sentence with lots of assumptions, especially regarding milk. Reminds me of all the VM "translations".
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But I think it's less likely and unless actual examples pop up I don't see how this could be written as g_s. To my knowledge the term "gahes" is much older, something typically 12-13th century, not 15th. But I could be wrong regarding remote reasons. I've never heard it in Austrian.
RE: Can we make isoglosses? - Koen G - 09-05-2023
"Gas" for goat appears in some sources (1800's), sometimes with a humoristic tone, which might suggest that they are imitating the way people speak. Examples:
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Regarding "mich", here is an example of "gaismich" in a transcription of 14th century legal documents. I'm not sure about the intended meaning though:
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It says, in a list of animals "und vier gaismich Gens."
RE: Can we make isoglosses? - ReneZ - 09-05-2023
(09-05-2023, 12:04 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Regarding "mich", here is an example of "gaismich" in a transcription of 14th century legal documents. I'm not sure about the intended meaning though:
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It says, in a list of animals "und vier gaismich Gens."
I am looking forward to the responses here. It is way over my head.
It seems in parallel to the "vaschang" before, and if it weren't such a serious document, I'd see some jocular invective here:
six darned chickens and four friggin' geese.
RE: Can we make isoglosses? - nablator - 09-05-2023
(09-05-2023, 12:04 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It says, in a list of animals "und vier gaismich Gens."ChatGPT translates it as:
Quote:... six Vaschang hens and four goat's milk cheeses.
(Note: "Vaschang" is likely a variant spelling of "Fasan" meaning "pheasant" in German.)
RE: Can we make isoglosses? - Helmut Winkler - 09-05-2023
(09-05-2023, 12:45 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(09-05-2023, 12:04 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It says, in a list of animals "und vier gaismich Gens."ChatGPT translates it as:
Quote:... six Vaschang hens and four goat's milk cheeses.
(Note: "Vaschang" is likely a variant spelling of "Fasan" meaning "pheasant" in German.)
It is rather Fasching, Tuesday before Ash Wednesday, a common day for paying dues. But I have no idea what gaismich means
RE: Can we make isoglosses? - ReneZ - 09-05-2023
Fasching is the only suggestion I found for vaschang.
My more serious guess would be German 'bunt' and then gaismich could mean: white.
But this is no more than a guess.
RE: Can we make isoglosses? - Anton - 09-05-2023
"vaschang" means "fastnacht"
10 herbst huenr & 6 fastnacht huenr
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RE: Can we make isoglosses? - Aga Tentakulus - 09-05-2023
Here is a picture of a goat goose in a museum.
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RE: Can we make isoglosses? - Koen G - 09-05-2023
(09-05-2023, 02:06 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.gaismich could mean: white.
So if I understand correctly, we are always seeing adjective-animal, right? So "und vier gaismich Gens" would be "and four goatmilk-(colored) geese"?
RE: Can we make isoglosses? - Anton - 09-05-2023
This might be just erroneous transcription, after all.