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RE: Oiin as a verb ending - pfeaster - 19-06-2022
(19-06-2022, 12:32 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Forgive me, farmerjohn, for not understanding your idea completely. According to you, oiin is ui, but I couldn't find a Latin word ui.
As [vi], it's the dative singular or ablative singular of [vis] ("strength"), or alternatively the Roman numeral 6 -- so by itself it would be a plausible Latin plaintext word, as far as that goes.
RE: Oiin as a verb ending - Ruby Novacna - 19-06-2022
(19-06-2022, 01:49 PM)pfeaster Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.As [vi], it's the dative singular or ablative singular of [vis] ("strength")Thanks a lot, pfeaster!
I checked Olivetti online and just discovered that Olivetti Latin-French does not find "vi", unlike Latin-English, good to know.
RE: Oiin as a verb ending - farmerjohn - 19-06-2022
(19-06-2022, 12:32 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(19-06-2022, 10:59 AM)farmerjohn Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.My initial thought was that oin, oiin, oiiin stand for uō, uī, uaeForgive me, farmerjohn, for not understanding your idea completely. According to you, oiin is ui, but I couldn't find a Latin word ui.
P.S. I use Komarov's Gaffiot dictionary or Gaffiot online which I have just discovered, gaffiot.fr
There is also word hui, but generally yes, words (not just endings) oin, oiin, oiiin are the main reason which made me look for another explanation
RE: Oiin as a verb ending - Ruby Novacna - 19-06-2022
(19-06-2022, 05:18 PM)farmerjohn Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.oin, oiin, oiiin are the main reason which made me look for another explanationAnd what is this explanation?
Have you published your results?
RE: Oiin as a verb ending - farmerjohn - 19-06-2022
(19-06-2022, 07:03 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(19-06-2022, 05:18 PM)farmerjohn Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.oin, oiin, oiiin are the main reason which made me look for another explanationAnd what is this explanation?
Have you published your results?
At the moment I explore the idea that oiin is vī and v and u are not distinguished. This would allow to match more words. In particular word oiin thus matches avī or ovī (I favor the idea that voynichese is sort of abjadic).
RE: Oiin as a verb ending - Ruby Novacna - 19-06-2022
(19-06-2022, 08:15 PM)farmerjohn Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.oiin is vīDo you mean "iin" is vi and "oiin" is ovi?
RE: Oiin as a verb ending - Aga Tentakulus - 20-06-2022
Why so complicated?
In Latin,
If "v = is" so could "iv" = sis", "iiv = tis" , "iiiv = ris", "iiiiv = vis".
Now it can:
asis, osis, usis, isis
atis, otis, utis
aris, oris uris .....
datis, totis, tatis, tutis.
Second variant endings, tis, ti, te to....sis si se so
This can only be solved in context.
The question is more in dialect d or t, "dotis or totis".
These are simple combinations with endings.
RE: Oiin as a verb ending - Ruby Novacna - 20-06-2022
(20-06-2022, 04:56 AM)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This can only be solved in context.Thank you, in your opinion, can we expect to read some words in Latin?
RE: Oiin as a verb ending - Aga Tentakulus - 20-06-2022
Yes, hundreds
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Based on the frequency, the ending "iiv = tis" is
RE: Oiin as a verb ending - Ruby Novacna - 20-06-2022
Thank you, this is a useful list.
Now we just have to try to read some words.
Do you have any suggestions?