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RE: Could there be more documents written in voynichese ? - MarcoP - 29-03-2025
(28-03-2025, 06:50 PM)zachary.kaelan Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(25-03-2025, 02:58 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I both agree and disagree with this. Even if we were to double or triple our corpus of Voynichese text, it wouldn't bring us closer to a solution and we would still be left with the same questions we have now.
We would be able to compare various properties of another Voynichese document with those of the manuscript. Example scenarios:
1. The document shares a scribe but the text patterns are much different. Increases the probability of the text either being meaningless or of there being multiple enciphering schemes.
In case it isn't clear, we already know that this is the case: Herbal A and Pharma (Small Plants) are both by Lisa's Scribe 1, but pharmacese is a different dialect (high frequency of EVA:eo bigram). See You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. Different dialects are not determined by different scribes alone.
Quote:2. The document has an astrology image but the text patterns are a closer match to the herbal section. Increases the probability of the text and images having no connection.
We can already see this with Herbal B being closer to Balneo/Q13 than to Herbal A. Different dialects are not determined by different illustrations alone. By the way, one cannot really discuss "the text patterns of the herbal section", because herbal pages show at least three different sets of text patterns: Herbal A, pharmacese (f.87, 90, 96), Herbal B.
RE: Could there be more documents written in voynichese ? - Barbrey - 21-04-2025
(25-03-2025, 08:04 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I think that is more likely.
There is one very odd thing though.
The reverse has a wax seal (just as a stamp - it does not seal anything) with the initials A.G.
This matches (coincidentally?) Aldo Gritti.
That is more than weird. (Best Google for this name).
However, I definitely do not suspect Fabrizio Salani of any involvement in that.
He really hopes that this dates back to Prague and spent some money to have the materials tested.
The parchment has not been dated - at least not that I know - as that would be very expensive.
I believe the seal “stamp” to be a Mason’s seal. I asked the local here to check it out and they think it very possible. Many masons over the years have individualized their seals. And the VMS is certainly a document that would have interested the masons in any century, just not as far back as the VMS origin as freemasons as known today did not yet exist.