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RE: A method I have made to translate the Voynich/chiper text - project963 - 21-03-2025
I thought most things where explained in the presentation.
I use theories from books on development of a Turing machine learning. It's what pop culture calls Chatgtp today. But its old news in tech world.
So I wanted to make a model on how to learn a machine to analyse unknown language. To do that I used a four digit code system + a letter. What I did next was to divide the spreadsheet in categories as the number of words increased. Then I thought that I saw a pattern; that the first letters had a meaning, like a category. Then one thing led to another, and I started to use human intuition and brute force to test names and purpose. So far the model seem to work.
And I can only repeat that this is mainly a language model building project, not a voynich dream project on what someone wish the book to be about. This is because when u are using a preprogrammed model on previous not analysised text, anything can happen, and in worst case, the model starts to produce gibberish and will be stopped.
I go as new knowledge shows, and the newest addition, 67r2, shows no Zodiac, but a calendar. Next week I will analyse the new words and use sub cross method to identity new words from 67r2. This version of 67r2 is therefore just a draft that I only use to identify thematic direction.
If anyone want my guess of that this book is about, my guess it's that it could be a school book on plants, how to plant them, where to find them and what to use them to.
And, yes, incl. water plants.
RE: A method I have made to translate the Voynich/chiper text - Rafal - 21-03-2025
Thank you for the explantation. It wasn't really obvious that by talking about Turing machine you actually mean ChatGPT.
RE: A method I have made to translate the Voynich/chiper text - ReneZ - 21-03-2025
(21-03-2025, 01:37 PM)Rafal Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It wasn't really obvious that by talking about Turing machine you actually mean ChatGPT.
I don't think that that is what he said...
RE: A method I have made to translate the Voynich/chiper text - project963 - 22-03-2025
(21-03-2025, 11:50 AM)Pepper Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Just a small ad on info here; according to the model I use you should also see the sub category in its context; newer here is used like in "newer history".(20-03-2025, 05:39 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(20-03-2025, 05:32 PM)Pepper Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.What is the proposed translation of daiin? (Sorry, I don't know how to get Voynichese characters to show up)
From the Excel dictionary file: newer.
Select the EVA text, then click the "A" (font) icon -> EVA. Like this: daiin
DAIIN
Excellent, thanks!
So 2% (ish) of the manuscript's contents is 'newer'. I think that's all I need to know about this translation.
RE: A method I have made to translate the Voynich/chiper text - project963 - 28-03-2025
I just finished analyzing 67r2. Status so far is that the model now has 108 translation words (of 760+ analysed individual words).
I'm have also started to read Aristotle biology because of some similarities with his work at Island of Lesboes.
RE: A method I have made to translate the Voynich/chiper text - project963 - 31-03-2025
About the 57v, in the 3 circle there are a sequence of 4 x 17 glyphs. Some are the same some are different. My guess is that it's a 4 year cycle with a leap year as the nr 4 sequence. You can see that they wrote glyph 1 og 2 in the beginning of the fourth sequence much closer than sequence 1 to 3.
Leap year is an old invention. People had this knowledge in ancient times.
RE: A method I have made to translate the Voynich/chiper text - Ruby Novacna - 31-03-2025
I don't understand, do the glyphs represent years, months, days?
RE: A method I have made to translate the Voynich/chiper text - Aga Tentakulus - 31-03-2025
Do you know how to take someone's lead on this question?
Neither, it's a cycle (Zyklus)
RE: A method I have made to translate the Voynich/chiper text - R. Sale - 31-03-2025
Interpretation is based on appearance. Interpretation is verified by structure because structure is objective.
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All three interpretive systems are either numeric or alpha-numeric, but how is it supposed to work?
RE: A method I have made to translate the Voynich/chiper text - project963 - 31-03-2025
I found out the rest just hours later, this is how its constructed: