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RE: how to use voynich ninja/ weekly voynich video chat - davidd - 24-04-2025
(24-04-2025, 06:04 PM)Bluetoes101 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I think if you held one of these proposed meetings you probably wouldn't want to do another one..
Lots of people on here are pretty chill, have spent a long time with the MS and read many works by others, however some (usually fleeting visitors) are.. not these things. Personally I ain't sitting through 30mins of why Tiktok is going to get taken over by swirls caused by the manuscripts aura, or how plants represent galaxy's discovered 2 weeks ago
There has to be a bit of management of these things for a number of reasons and it takes time
Maybe chalk it down to me being relatively new here, in my experience this problem quiets down in a few meetings, as long as you have some freeform time at the end of the meeting where everybody is invited to share whatever theory they want to share. These people want to be heard and just letting them speak for some time will diffuse that urge in the future. Let people spout their alien or jesus theories.
What kind of useful things could be done in such meetings?
news, discuss the new stuff that came in since the previous meetings, blogposts, new discoveries.
maybe a presentation if somebody volunteers
discuss collaboration stuff, looking for related manuscripts from the same time period, or the tower question that Koen asked in one of his videos,
for me as a beginner, some information about the software already out there.
discussing books.
Some casual chat if it is not too busy, if the voynich community shows that chill cooperative people rise to the top people will emulate their behaviour.
cons:
some moderation is probably needed, everywhere you get an audience of 50+ people some racist will find very attractive to start "triggering the libs"
if you have some moderation being allowed to share your theory will lend the weirdest rheories some kind of stamp of approval from the community, where the community may think otherwise
if it gets considered a timesink the real experts of the ninja forum will probably not want to attend, making it a "blind leading the blind" exercise.
Rome wasnt build in one day and even a little "community building" can go a long way. If we'd start with just the open forum social part and grow from there it would already add value in my opinion.
RE: how to use voynich ninja/ weekly voynich video chat - Koen G - 24-04-2025
I really appreciate these ideas, and I think I'd be the same in your position. But you may be overestimating the carrying capacity of the community. We are trying to do a lot of what you are saying with the annual "Voynich Manuscript Day", but even this involves some pulling and pushing to get people involved.
How many serious Voynich themed papers do you think are published annually? This was a bit more than usual in the wake of the University of Malta conference, but nowhere near enough to fuel a monthly discussion. The rate of serious research is pretty low, and that's normal. This is a niche subject carried mostly by amateur researchers. Having meaningful monthly meetings would require a degree of commitment that's, in my opinion, not sustainable.
In my opinion (of course I'm biased in this), a forum is the best way to discuss the manuscript since it is a pretty versatile medium. You can do collaborative projects, share information, have more informal chats... all in a slow and measured written setting that also allows people who don't master English well to participate.
Some time ago there was someone who started a discord server. Is this still active? What kinds of things are discussed there?
RE: how to use voynich ninja/ weekly voynich video chat - Ruby Novacna - 24-04-2025
(24-04-2025, 09:43 AM)davidd Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.... i would like to propose to do some weekly or monthly video conference chatting, brainstorming.
Do you think that written communication does not allow for good collaboration and/or an exchange of ideas?
RE: how to use voynich ninja/ weekly voynich video chat - davidd - 24-04-2025
(24-04-2025, 08:19 PM)Ruby Novacna Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Do you think that there is nothing that video communication can do better or more efficient than written communication when it comes to collaboration?(24-04-2025, 09:43 AM)davidd Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.... i would like to propose to do some weekly or monthly video conference chatting, brainstorming.
Do you think that written communication does not allow for good collaboration and/or an exchange of ideas?
I am not opposed to doing collaboration that includes written communication.
RE: how to use voynich ninja/ weekly voynich video chat - Aga Tentakulus - 24-04-2025
In which language should it be held?
I'm in favour of German, because I'm not interested in English or Chinese.
In welcher Sprache sollte man es den abhalten?
Ich bin für deutsch, denn bei englisch oder auch chinesisch bin ich weg.
RE: how to use voynich ninja/ weekly voynich video chat - davidd - 24-04-2025
(24-04-2025, 09:51 PM)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.In which language should it be held?
I'm in favour of German, because I'm not interested in English or Chinese.
In welcher Sprache sollte man es den abhalten?
Ich bin für deutsch, denn bei englisch oder auch chinesisch bin ich weg.
wenn da genug leute ein deutsche video uberleg wollen warum nicht?
wie viele leute braucht mann fuer eine gute conversation
RE: how to use voynich ninja/ weekly voynich video chat - bi3mw - 25-04-2025
(24-04-2025, 07:49 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Some time ago there was someone who started a discord server. Is this still active? What kinds of things are discussed there?
There has been no activity on the server for some time now. In my opinion, they were too fixated on a quick solution right from the start.
RE: how to use voynich ninja/ weekly voynich video chat - ReneZ - 29-04-2025
(24-04-2025, 12:11 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(24-04-2025, 11:51 AM)davidd Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Are you aware that stolfi's FSG link gives a forbidden?
Ah yes, I had fixed most of these links, but apparently overlooked the ones on this page.
Will fix ASAP.
This has been fixed now. Sorry for the delay.