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RE: Double lobster - Rafal - 22-02-2026
Quote:Very interesting. Any ideas why one would duplicate crayfish? I thought duplication was reserved for twins, or fish.
Yes, it is weird. I have no better explanation than idea that the artist was drunk, drawing from memory and decided they if there are two fish
then there should be two crayfish (crayfishes???)
Maybe it was aslo somehow inspired by the Cancer symbol. These are symbollic pincers of the crab but someone very poorly educated could think these are two crabs:
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RE: Double lobster - pjburkshire - 22-02-2026
I just noticed something else. On f72v1 (Libra - The scales of justice), the left pan is dark in color and the right pan is light in color.
RE: Double lobster - R. Sale - 23-02-2026
The pairing in Cancer is rare but not unique. What's going on is something so simple that it is easily overlooked. And that is *pairing*. VMs Cancer is the last of a string of five zodiac houses in which the occupants of the medallion(s) are paired. Like Pisces, Cancer has two animals in one medallion. This is a pairing through combination.
Aries and Taurus, on the other hand, have single animals in two medallions. This is a pairing through division.
Pisces and Cancer are aquatic animals in pairs. Therefore, a pair of pairs. Aries and Taurus are land animals and pair up the same way. Thus, making a pair of paired pairs.
VMs Gemini is a man and a woman, potentially a marriage, not the alternative twins, Castor and Pollux. Marriage, as a joining of male and female, is the pairing of complementary opposites. That is, things do not need to be the same in order to make a valid pairing.
Pairing is important, particularly with allegorical interpretations, because singular items allow a much wider range of hypothetical possibilities than those in which the valid information has been designated by pairs. Pairing allows the artist to create a more restrictive path of interpretation.
The background for this is from the laws of Deuteronomy. Deuteronomy requires two witnesses. It says so twice.
Deut. 17:6 & 19:15
RE: Double lobster - DG97EEB - 23-02-2026
(Today, 12:12 AM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The pairing in Cancer is rare but not unique. What's going on is something so simple that it is easily overlooked. And that is *pairing*. VMs Cancer is the last of a string of five zodiac houses in which the occupants of the medallion(s) are paired. Like Pisces, Cancer has two animals in one medallion. This is a pairing through combination.
Aries and Taurus, on the other hand, have single animals in two medallions. This is a pairing through division.
Pisces and Cancer are aquatic animals in pairs. Therefore, a pair of pairs. Aries and Taurus are land animals and pair up the same way. Thus, making a pair of paired pairs.
VMs Gemini is a man and a woman, potentially a marriage, not the alternative twins, Castor and Pollux. Marriage, as a joining of male and female, is the pairing of complementary opposites. That is, things do not need to be the same in order to make a valid pairing.
Pairing is important, particularly with allegorical interpretations, because singular items allow a much wider range of hypothetical possibilities, than those in which the valid information has been designated by pairs. Pairing allows the artist to create a more restrictive path of interpretation.
The background for this is from the laws of Deuteronomy. Deuteronomy requires two witnesses. It says so twice.
Deut. 17:6 & 19:15
That combined with the observation above about dark and light, and the lobsters being green and red (per Lauber) is really interesting.. what about poor lonely Saggitarius?
RE: Double lobster - pjburkshire - 23-02-2026
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Pairing is important, particularly with allegorical interpretations, because singular items allow a much wider range of hypothetical possibilities than those in which the valid information has been designated by pairs. Pairing allows the artist to create a more restrictive path of interpretation.
What allegorical interpretations do you see?
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The background for this is from the laws of Deuteronomy. Deuteronomy requires two witnesses. It says so twice.
Deut. 17:6 & 19:15
Why don't the others have to follow this law?
RE: Double lobster - R. Sale - 23-02-2026
If all of the occupants of the VMs zodiac medallions were paired, it would be obvious already, wouldn't it? As it is, it's more ambiguous, the altered sequence and the division of Aries and Taurus are more of a distraction than a clue. There may also be a reason that the number 'five' is significant. [4 x 17 symbol sequence]
Actual allegories are based on stories rather than just illustrations. One of the better might be f46v. Other illustrations such as the Agnus Dei, Philomela, Melusine, or the nine Muses are examples where knowing the story facilitates the interpretation.