• There is a tiny drawing of a crown similar to the VMS crown in Morgan M.68. I can't tell if it is triangles or fleur-de-lis, but it might be bumps.
  
• In Morgan M.853 there is a crown with triangles, an arc, and a cross that is almost invisible because it fades into the ornate background.
  
• Trinity O.8.24 has one that is small and roughly drawn, but it might be the same kind of crown.
  
• A painting of Malcolm Canmore and S. Margaret has the VMS style of crown but it's so small it's hard to see if there are bumps on the edges of the triangles.
  
  

• The Babenburg arms include a similar crown plus a golden fleece.
  
• Note quite as good because the triangles are rounded, and there's no cross, but Durer's drawing of Sigismund is a similar style.
  
• The Bellifortis crown (1414) has fancy knobs on the struts, so it's taller and not quite as similar. It is quite a bit like the crown in Pal. 323 and one in a Council of Constance diagram.
  
• The crown of Constantiople in one manuscript is similar but does not have the cross on top. In another manuscript, it does have a cross but the bumps are not quite as triangular. The same is true for the crown in a painting of Friedrich Schone.
  
• Emperor Frederique (BL 12531) is shown with a cross and arc, but the triangles are arch-shaped.
  
• Many of them have fleur-de-lis rather than triangles, like the Iglesia Catolica 1507 image and BNF Franc. 247, a painting of Rudolph I, and the Hours of Leonor Vega.
  
• In an Albert and Elizabeth drawing, Albert has a similar crown, but it does not have a bumpy edge on the triangles.
  
• Holbein's Henry VIII has fleur de lis rather than trinagles.
  
• The Arlberg arms roll has one that is similar but the triangles don't have bumps, the the crown is squatter (as is true of many Austrian crowns). Hugh Capet is shown with a similar crown, squatter than most of the English, French, and German crowns. Also Jacob Fugger 1551.
  
• Drawings of King Stephen and of Henry II have the triangles, but not the arc and cross.
  
• By the 17th century there were more crowns had triangles with bumps, an arc, and the cross on top (crown wars).
  
• Ottoman crown drawings were similar but with a flower-motif instead of a cross.
  
• Spiezer Chronik has flower bumps instead of triangles.
  
• Some of the Torah crowns are similar but, of course, without the cross (there's a finial shape instead).
  

   

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(10-01-2020, 01:27 AM)VViews Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi Aga Tentaculus,
The image you show is indeed an very good parallel for the October crown.

However I do wonder about whether these are accurate depictions of the actual crowns they wore. The Innsbruck statues were made in the 1520's, so 30 and 90 years after their respective deaths. Therefore the artists who made them did not attend their coronations. Other portraits show these emperors with rather different crowns.  Orb and cross on top, yes, but the "staircase pattern on the triangles" as JKP calls it, I haven't seen in other portraits of them, or in images of actual crowns.

In saying this I am not denying the ressemblance, which is plain to see.
I would be very interested in understanding the origin of the crowns in the Innsbruck sculptures.

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