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RE: Alchemical Symbolism in the VMS - Scarecrow - 07-03-2022
The arabic alchemy does have quite a few familiar looking symbols..
RE: Alchemical Symbolism in the VMS - bi3mw - 07-03-2022
Here I see a striking similarity.
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@Scarecrow: Can you provide a source for this folio ?
RE: Alchemical Symbolism in the VMS - Scarecrow - 07-03-2022
That one is found in many sources. I found it here You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
There are also other similarities.
Also this has some quite familiar forms..
RE: Alchemical Symbolism in the VMS - bi3mw - 07-03-2022
(07-03-2022, 01:36 PM)Scarecrow Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Also this has some quite familiar forms..
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Ms. orient. A 1261, Bl. 111
RE: Alchemical Symbolism in the VMS - RobGea - 07-03-2022
The connected dot triangle symbol in the bottom left of fRos is similar to the alchemical symbol for Aqua Vitae. However can't find an old source for that symbol.
RE: General chat thread - bi3mw - 11-06-2023
A simple observation: On You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. similar processes seem to take place ( from the blue "canopy" / blue liquid to the green "pool" / green liquid ). Can this be coincidence ?
The depiction of processes in the margins of folios is not uncommon (see You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.). I would speculate in the VMS (Quire 13) on the production of aqua vitae (quinta essentia).
RE: Alchemical Symbolism in the VMS - bi3mw - 12-06-2023
In a "Pseudepigraphe Rasis-Schriften" I found the following entry (translated from German):
Quote:"Of a short doctrinal writing entitled Flores Secretorum de regimine quatuor naturarum, four manuscripts are shown in the Cambridge libraries in Catalogue SINGER, Vol. I, p. IOS under No. I IS. I cannot give any information about the contents, as I do not have photocopies."I would like to know more about "Flores secretorum" in Alchemical Tracts. Unfortunately I could not find the Catalouge SINGER online. The only chapter under this heading is here:
Cambridge, Corpus Christi College, MS 099, Alchemical Tracts
Chapter "Flores secretorum" ( Secret flowers )
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Has anyone ever heard of this subject and can provide details ( sources, translations, etc. ) ?
RE: Alchemical Symbolism in the VMS - nablator - 12-06-2023
Three more Cambridge mss :
Cambridge Trinity College MS O.7.35:
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Cambridge University Library 1256 (Ff.4.13)
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Cambridge Gonville and Caius College MS 181
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The Catalogue of Latin and Vernacular Alchemical Manuscripts in Great Britain and Ireland dating from before the XVI Century - not available online either it seems.
RE: Alchemical Symbolism in the VMS - MarcoP - 12-06-2023
Hi Matthias,
I never heard of that work. In MS 099, it starts at p.13 and ends at p.15.
Googling the first words gives a few results: "scito fili quod sapientes"
They all appear to be catalogues, so I doubt that the text has ever been published.
RE: Alchemical Symbolism in the VMS - bi3mw - 12-06-2023
Cambridge Trinity College MS O.7.35:
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Flores Rasis libro 3°, folio 119 - 123
Although the text is ok, I have a hard time reading it. Can someone kindly briefly summarize what it is about ? Is it really about "secret" plants ?
edit: Sorry Marco, I just read your post now.