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RE: 116v - Bluetoes101 - 14-12-2025
"The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you" I think may be applicable here
While I thought maybe the "?" identification might make a "u/v+?" into "m+i", I think changing it this much to make sense somehow would need a lot of comparisons
Then you have the issue that someone drew a billy goat under what is seen as "pocks leber" - plus what might be a "leb/lab" label, which I have seen a number of times as a short version of "leber" - You see it in cooking recipe titles a lot. The title will be "blah blah blah lab/leb/lob"(+er swish) then the writing under write out "leber".
Here is one I found quickly that looks a bit like "lob"
RE: 116v - ReneZ - 14-12-2025
It says "von rindes leb[er]", basically highlighting the text
RE: 116v - Bluetoes101 - 14-12-2025
(7 hours ago)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It says "von rindes leb[er]", basically highlighting the text
What I was getting at is I think we have the same thing going on with the VMS text. So to think of a new reading for "leber" needs more proof than "what seems to make more sense"
RE: 116v - JoJo_Jost - 14-12-2025
If we ever find any sense in the VMS...
I believe that the x in poxleber is a deleted letter. But unfortunately, that doesn't make it any better...
By the way, good and convincing comparison, Bluetoes, but that doesn't make it any better too, for the translation of the sentence.
RE: 116v - Aga Tentakulus - 14-12-2025
That would make sense with ‘vmen’ actually pronounced ‘v'men’ “vomen” (from one) Feminine ‘vonere’ (from one).
Same as ‘v'bren’ pronounced (vebren)
(burn).
Very complicated for non-Alemannic speakers.
But I basically assume the VM is based on the Bavarian dialect, but how exactly is it there? I know it's similar. 200 km doesn't make much difference.
Das würde schon Sinn ergeben bei "vmen" eigentlich "v'men" gesprochen "vomen" ( von einem) Weiblich "vonere" (von einer).
Gleich wie "v'bren" gesprochen (vebren)
(verbrenn).
Für nicht alemannisch sprechende sehr kompliziert.
Aber ich gehe grundsätlich im VM vom bayrischen Dialekt aus, aber wie ist es da genau. Ich weiss es ist ähnlich. 200 Km machen da den Braten nicht fett.