(11-11-2025, 04:58 PM)cabeswater Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I'm happy to check for repeatability if you want me to but I don't think you're going to like what I have to say. I believe I've reached out to you via email before and then realised this was a much bigger bear to poke than I was bothered poking. I probably sound like the meanest person but in fact I would be over the moon if the Voynich was in Irish. I've no personal issues with you or your work but if you want a native speaker's input you should probably heed what the native speaker is telling you. I won't be watching any videos; text or images only since that's how papers are written, and if you can't get your point across in written form then your point is too obscure to work. 

Your method of saying the sounds you think you see and letting a dictation service find words that match is the very definition of cherry picking. 

How would you translate f108v.40 EVA "Sheeal qokeedy qokeedy qokeedy"? 

Can you explain why such a heavy proportion of the manuscript's text includes words that start with "fo-" [EVA qo] meaning under- (according to you), and "ath-" [EVA o] meaing re- (also according to you)? You said previously in the thread that you just ignore some of the vord initial EVA o, but you include it in the vord when it suits you. I hope I don't have to explain why just throwing away the most heavily featured feature of the text isn't great, and even worse to pick and choose when you keep it and when you disregard it.

(11-11-2025, 02:54 PM)Doireannjane Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I can’t properly read parts of the graph. Why is there a sh? This is a little complicated because the three dialects are super different, I usually find myself hearing it as either Munster or Connacht because of what has and what has not been retained sound wise and character wise.

B in Modern Irish is usually in combination with other characters (mbd in Irish) to make other sounds that are covered already by bh or VUH, for example

(11-11-2025, 07:33 PM)Doireannjane Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This image is “fh” or “bh” in Irish writing sounding like Fuh or Vuh respectively

What I describe as an R with a hat, R symbol with loop on top (in center only) is BRIH sound and “br” written in Irish

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It’s usually only a bh/vuh sound in the center of words

(11-11-2025, 08:58 PM)Doireannjane Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I’m checking this outside at work right now. But curvy hook, like G but curvy is soft and hard CUH sound “ch” and “c” in irish

(11-11-2025, 09:12 PM)rikforto Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

(11-11-2025, 08:58 PM)Doireannjane Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I’m checking this outside at work right now. But curvy hook, like G but curvy is soft and hard CUH sound “ch” and “c” in irish

I've marked where "c" and "ch" correspond in the phonology with an "s". Please take your time and answer this at home if that's easier, I'd rather get this right. But are there any other changes to the consonant system you'd like to see?