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This experiment was inspired by Chinese theory, and in particular by Stolfi’s theses about the scribe’s mistake and writing by ear.

I'm very skeptical about linguistic theories, particularly about attempts to map VMS symbols onto other writing systems, and even more so, onto sounds.

However, I became interested in the thesis that the author might have recorded the language by ear, as he either did not know or underestimated the existence of any writing system among the people (if there was one at all).

I tried to create such a “phonetic” script for the Ingush language. I used not only letters (but not all of them) as symbols, but also very common syllables in words in the text. At some points, I left out problems because I didn’t want to create too many syllables. So, one of the syllables is written the same as another, but it differs from it by one sound (specifically, in that it lacks that sound).

I asked the AI (sorry, I don’t know how to speak Ingush Cry ) to write a short text, and I recorded it using this letter. Here’s what I got:
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AI text:
Хьянна саак хьятмад талх лоаат-таш да
Цэннабоа баш сабаара хьякха кхораш ба
Бэрда гтя гъуйра хьявса хьялха лъогlаш яц
Шура тlъянна цаlохк тхоа тэхка мара баккха дац
Къант човнаш тэхьа латт, цунгъала ра морх хьяшар да
Сак лъусташ ваа, амма цунзи ларглац

Will someone be able to match the symbols with letters/syllables from the text and reconstruct the writing? How difficult will this be?

I hope you won’t have any difficulties with Cyrillic characters Smile . The text itself looks different, but it reads as it’s written here.

If this remains unsolved, I will send you my alphabet and a transcription of the text in accordance with that alphabet Big Grin
I would be interested to see your theories, “transcriptions,” attempts, and anything else.
(02-09-2026, 09:07 PM)ololololo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.If this remains unsolved

You gave the solution, so the glyphs should be easy to match with the letters.

Now imagine if the language and phonetic values were unknown.

The last line of the solution is not in the image it seems.

3 glyphs matched and tentative identification of beginning of each word:

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Same glyph for хья, хьа,  ба:

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Nice try to look east (a bit too far).
Great job, @nablator! I can see that you tried to use the method of matching letters with glyphs, obtaining correspondences. You even guessed one syllable! A couple of minor nuances:
1). The glyph you chose means аш, not ш.
2). A single “gallows” symbol means хья, but if there is a glyph “o” nearby, then it will be the syllable ба.

What about the other syllables? Did they cause you any difficulties?
(02-09-2026, 11:21 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Now imagine if the language and phonetic values were unknown.
According to proponents of the Chinese theory, VMS is problematic due to phonetics. The author clearly perceived Chinese in his own way, with a “European” ear, and we cannot know how accurately he represented what he heard (for example, the speaker might have been reading quickly, and the author might have taken two similar characters for one word).
But Jorge Stolfi has some connections with SBS...
(02-09-2026, 11:28 PM)Stefan Wirtz_2 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Nice try to look east (a bit too far).
I chose Ingush because it seemed quite similar to Voynichese to me — it has repeating words that may differ by just one letter and by stress (хилла хила as qokeedy qokedy), and its words are often quite short. It was the easiest to turn into something resembling VMS.
Some Caucasian languages have the same feature.
In general, this experiment was designed to try to study it using methods that are applied to VMS. That is, to achieve as close a match as possible, to reproduce the alphabet, and so on. That is, to do what proponents of linguistic theories usually do.
This is an interesting experiment.

I'll tell for now just one thing - if I got it without any explanation, I would never be able to recognize it is Ingush and crack it. But I am not any cryptology star, after all Smile 

I wonder if some best cryptologists would be able to do it having to choose from 5000 of languages of the world. Maybe today they have huge databases and may run computer software that will try all existing languages one by one if they fit. I don't know.

Here for sure they could count entropy and probably discover that it is typical for a natural language. They could count a number of signs but they wouldn't probably be sure if it is alphabet or something more. They could also run Sukhotin algorythm to try to discover the vowels. What next, I don't know.

In cryptology you rely a lot on the context. If you got some Nazi war cipher, you naturally assumed it is in German. Without the context it is much, much harder.

See how much problems people had with Linear B. And it is "only" a syllabary of ancient Greek.
(03-09-2026, 11:05 AM)ololololo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.2). A single “gallows” symbol means хья, but if there is a glyph “o” nearby, then it will be the syllable ба.

I missed one because бoа is not ба. Difficult rule.

(03-09-2026, 11:05 AM)ololololo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.1). The glyph you chose means аш, not ш.

But line 4 starts with ш, not a: Шура

Quote:What about the other syllables? Did they cause you any difficulties?

Not sure if I want to continue. Too easy.
(03-09-2026, 01:49 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.But line 4 starts with ш, not a: Шура
That’s the point — writing doesn’t reproduce the language exactly.
(03-09-2026, 01:49 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Not sure if I want to continue. Too easy.
I’d like to work with other theories, like trying to make the Chinese language similar to VMS. Perhaps, if I get around to it, I’ll publish this here Smile
But the question isn’t about how easy it is to find something similar in the texts. How easy it is to fully analyze and decipher the writing — that’s what I was thinking about.
If I understand correctly, you are compressing the text, and that is likely to increase character entropy. Voynichese appears to go in the opposite direction
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