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On the next page, from the diagram of urine formation (or urination, or something else), on f79v, we can see an analogue — the act of defecation/digestion.
At the top — the mouth. The reservoir under the lady with the cross is visually similar to a liver. The tubesmay refer to the intestines, but there’s a discrepancy with f77v, where it’s depicted as a single pipe rather than several. Also, the tubes are oriented upwards, although, in theory, they should be arranged in a snake‑like pattern.
So when you swallow food it goes to the liver and then you defecate onto a mermaid?
(19-08-2026, 09:41 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.So when you swallow food it goes to the liver and then you defecate onto a mermaid?
I don’t know what goes where on this diagram. But anyway, the upper reservoir looks like a liver, and the lid on top might be connected to the mouth.
The problem is not only the absence of a stomach, but also of the intestines. Instead, there are some pipes at the bottom. Maybe the author simply didn’t reach it in the course of his research.
And what about the lake with the mermaid? Well, it could have just been a distraction, like “here I see a woman, I see animals, they’re swimming, so it’s a lake.”
By the way, this isn’t a mermaid. If you look closely, you can see the fish’s mouth and the nymph’s legs.
(20-08-2026, 04:38 PM)ololololo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.By the way, this isn’t a mermaid. If you look closely, you can see the fish’s mouth and the nymph’s legs.
And the fish's eyes.
Although some details of the mouth were probably added by the infamous Boobs-Showercaps-And-Some-Other-Things Retoucher.
All the best, --stolfi
There is an interesting illustration of a mermaid and four fish in Harley 334. This manuscript is already relevant because of the cosmic comparison. Provenance: Paris, 2nd Qtr. 15th C. The text provides no identification. The similarities are based on the "mermaid" AND the four companions.
In Lauber's Book of Nature, a mermaid is found among the 'fish', and another among the 'sea monsters'. Mermaids are not persons; they are generic creatures.
The VMs representation is not a mermaid. She does not come from Christian or classical traditions. She is pagan water deity of sorts and seems best associated with the lesser-known version of the myth on Melusine. Not the Melusine dragon-lady, of Lusignan, married to Raimundo, and cultivated by the Duke of Berry, as much as the mermaid-like Melusine of Luxembourg, married to Siegfried, and presumed ancestress of Bonne of Luxembourg and her Valois descendants.
Like the VMs cosmos, this illustration is composed of two major ideological elements, but rather than being contradictory, they are more complementary. The artist has substituted mythical Melusine in the place of the generic mermaid AND her four companions.
This combination of structural elements is at least a fortuitous event, if not an intentional technique.
Oresme's cosmos AND the 43 undulations.
Nine nymphs wading AND a half-arcaded fountain.
A bendy insignia with blue stripes AND a red galero.
(22-08-2026, 12:42 AM)R. Sale Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.There is an interesting illustration of a mermaid and four fish in Harley 334. This manuscript is already relevant because of the cosmic comparison. Provenance: Paris, 2nd Qtr. 15th C. The text provides no identification. The similarities are based on the "mermaid" AND the four companions.
In Lauber's Book of Nature, a mermaid is found among the 'fish', and another among the 'sea monsters'. Mermaids are not persons; they are generic creatures.
The VMs representation is not a mermaid. She does not come from Christian or classical traditions. She is pagan water deity of sorts and seems best associated with the lesser-known version of the myth on Melusine. Not the Melusine dragon-lady, of Lusignan, married to Raimundo, and cultivated by the Duke of Berry, as much as the mermaid-like Melusine of Luxembourg, married to Siegfried, and presumed ancestress of Bonne of Luxembourg and her Valois descendants.
Like the VMs cosmos, this illustration is composed of two major ideological elements, but rather than being contradictory, they are more complementary. The artist has substituted mythical Melusine in the place of the generic mermaid AND her four companions.
This combination of structural elements is at least a fortuitous event, if not an intentional technique.
Oresme's cosmos AND the 43 undulations.
Nine nymphs wading AND a half-arcaded fountain.
A bendy insignia with blue stripes AND a red galero.
Each flower symbolizes something special, a unique flow of cosmic energy from the astral plane...
Women are stars, and swimming pools are the cosmos...
There’s no need to look for great significance in the details. I don’t think there’s anything unusual or cosmic about a fish that’s in the water.
(17-08-2026, 07:01 AM)ololololo Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The unnaturally long scrotum can be explained by the fact that the artist stretched it deliberately in order to depict the nymph.
Or, and I know this is controversial, but hear me out - what if it's not biological at all?
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Koen, it could be anything. You’re saying this as if I’m a self‑assured fool who firmly believes in his crackpot theory and is trying to convince others of its truth.
The purpose of this thread is to find similarities with organs, interpret these images in this context, and understand whether there is any connection or meaning. I’m not dismissing other theories.
Regarding the illustrations I mentioned, I haven’t figured out exactly what they depict. I don’t know what the author was thinking, but I tried to proceed from the idea of a connection:
1). If it’s the intestines on the right side, then it’s probably the pancreas.
2). If the fallopian tubes are on top, then this is probably the clitoris.
3). If neither of the above, then the candidate is the scrotum or the same hyoid bone.
So there’s no need to remind me that it could be something completely different — I’m well aware of that
