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Hi Sivbugge,

I do think the theme might be close, and it is possible the figure is an infant male. However I have some issues.  

On the Characters, Mary + Jesus. 
I looked into things a little extra after posting and taking into account certain points/criticisms. What I found was that in no cases that I could find does Mary hold the ring (if we are to assume blue = Mary), though when the ring is replaced with a fruit in the same depictions of a mystic marriage then actually 2 of the 3 I found do have Mary holding and passing on the fruit, but the ring issue plus the fact we have another lady on the same page higher up with blue fabric over her hair makes me think "blue headwear = Mary" is probably not a thing here, amongst other issues.

So what about Jesus + another lady? An issue is that a detail of the figure is a fabric hair cover. I couldn't really find any examples of the infant Jesus being depicted with anything like this. So I'm leaning towards probably not Jesus, at least not a normal depiction (same for Mary). 

An image I found which I thought might be comparable shows what might be took as an infant male (if it were done in a "Voynich-way") but it's an adult female. What we might be seeing is Hierarchical proportion (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.) in both cases, and it is not that one is young and the other old, but one is seen as much more important/powerful etc. 
I still think the theme could be close.. but maybe as with most Voynich images, annoyingly, and sometimes (it feels) almost purposefully.. out of reach. As you point out though, the lack of red lips/cheeks etc might make the image more likely to be male than female. 

Funnily enough, its another Catherine.. this time "of Cleaves" (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.)
There is a Youtube video by The Morgan Library and Museum on the image here You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. 

I stay clear of possible readings of Voynich Text as there's only a small number of texts from the time I could half-read, even if they are entirely readable and not "Voynichese" Smile 

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Thank you Bluetoes101, for another picture. I agree. 

I think I will keep your pictures in mind as interesting references to the ring, as possible symbols of mystical marriage or purification. The rest can be open, though it interesting to reflect upon who the figures are, and who is giving and receiving. I believe the Voynich illustrations are rich in metaphorical meaning, and symbolic language. 

There is also the notion of a mystical or alchemical wedding, which connects to themes of divine blessing or even sanctification within the broader work of the soul´s purification. Especially from the 15th century onward, visualization became an increasingly central aspect of alchemic. If I understand Barbara Orist correctly, in "Visualizations in Medieval Alchemy" she concludes that: "Indeed, alchemy was unique in continually adopting various cosmological models and philosophical theories for justifying artificial transformation of substances and in abandoning them again as quickly." In such a culture of fluid adaption and development, the borrowing of visual concepts from other traditions, for example Catholicism, happened, though the relationship is complex, and not simply one of direct imitation. 

Familiar religious motifs, such as the mystical marriage, baptism, resurrection, or coronation, was used to express stages of transformation in their work. If this Voynich illustration is a borrowing to an alchemical text, the text is possibly about abstract concepts.

It therefore seems possible - though I cannot judge how plausible - that a scene resembling that of St. Catherine might appear in an alchemical or theoretical text. 

Thank you again for the discussion.
It would be quite interesting to find this kind of presenting some sort of a large "ring" in any cultural background.
That scene is produced at least 3 times in Voynich Manuscript.

It is not defined a christian symbol in a Mary&Jesus context, and rather rarely used, I just saw it once yet.
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