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(18-11-2025, 07:24 PM)bi3mw Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I found this illustration online, unfortunately without a source reference. Maybe someone will find it.
Probably Vicenza, Biblioteca Bertoliana, Ms 320 M a.k.a. MS G.23.2.3 (362), the few pages that are available online look very similar. Cute little dachshund-dragon hybrid.
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(18-11-2025, 08:34 PM)Jorge_Stolfi Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Looks like #47 "Herba Bazea mnor..." of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view..
Yes, the plant looks like that. It would be nice if someone could find the original source with the “little dragon.”
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This image name has it as Ms.-362-Erbario-cc.-21v-22r-1.jpg
(18-11-2025, 09:05 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This image name has it as Ms.-362-Erbario-cc.-21v-22r-1.jpg
Vicenza, Biblioteca Bertoliana MS G.23.2.3 (
362) is the old number of MS. 320 M.
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Edit - This one seems to have been copied a lot. Probably better to just link JKPs post
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Tractatus de Herbis (ca.1440)
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So going by Marco's translation, we're looking at Herba Bazea minor and Herba Paroiscas / Paroischas / Paroyschas. Both used for healing snake bites. So it looks like the dragon is merely a stand-in for the snake.
With all these alchemical herbals in existence, there might be one with a dragon in a position and shape very much like ours. The bizarre thing would then be that the makers of the VM, not the most gifted in perspective, apparently decided to show the plant "whorl" from a completely different view, and not unsuccessfully.
Whatever the connection may be, I don't think it will be a simple one...
(18-11-2025, 08:55 PM)bi3mw Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Yes, the plant looks like that.
It is more than the drawing. I meant that the caption seems to be basically the same.
All the best, --stolfi
(18-11-2025, 09:21 PM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Vicenza, Biblioteca Bertoliana MS G.23.2.3 (362) is the old number of MS. 320 M.
I've gotten this far, but the entire manuscript doesn't seem to be online.
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edit: If the AI isn't hallucinating again, then the text is probably about healing wounds and snake bites.
basilisks are probably of interest too, not sure if they make much of an appearance in herbal pages usually
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