The Voynich Ninja

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Personally, I would like to see a review of the letters or characters or whatever you want to call them. Where did these shapes come from? I don't know who would be the best person to interview for that topic.

I think most people accept that "a" is the Latin "a" and probably that "o" is the Latin "o" but everything else seems to be a mystery and up for debate. In the decades of research, have new sources for inspirations for these shapes come to light?

Is "d" a "d" or a "b"?

Is "e" an "e" or a "c"?

Is "s" an "s" or a "z"?

And my favorite, is "l" an "l"?

I think it would be really interesting for us to hear from professionals in the various sciences that could help with VM research or at least inform member research here. We have already explored cryptography, linguistics, medieval studies and medieval manuscript studies, paleography, etc.

One science I know I would really like to hear about is You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., specifically of medieval Europe (click You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. for an interesting article that discusses the difference between archaeobotany and paleoethnobotany and paleobotany). Sadly, the person we would most likely have wanted to hear from, Ulrich Willerding, died in 2021 (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.). He specialized in medieval European paleoethnobotany. But there are others who are still living who might be interesting to hear from instead:

Andreas G. Heiss (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (includes email address), You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.)

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I don't think any of them are members here or have any personal interest in the VM but their current and future research and that of others in their field may provide insight regarding medieval plants and plant knowledge that could be used, at least eventually, as a cross-reference for VM plant identification. Well, at least, that would be the hope.

(30-04-2024, 10:48 AM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Getting someone to talk about the Rohonc Codex would certainly be extremely interesting. But the challenge there is probably to find the right persons, since I don't know the first thing about it. And working up to a point where I can have an informed conversation about it would take several months of study. Right now I wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between crackpot Rohonc theorists (I'm sure those exist there as well) and serious researchers with knowledge about the subject.

Koen,
I could be wrong, but you might try Klaus Schmeh (or Elonka Dunin). I know he has looked at it for his compiled list of encrypted codexes, but I don't know how much.

[quote="Koen G" pid='59265' dateline='1714404754']
As you may have noticed, I started making videos again. I decided to call the series "Voynich talk", both because it describes the contents well, and as a nod to this (sub)forum. I have a few ideas for videos I'd like to make, but I'm also curious for your requests and ideas. These could be:

[*]Anyone from the forum or outside who would like to tell me about a Voynich-related or adjacent topic they are passionate about, new research they are conducting...
[*]Some other form, like a debate, a review...

I have good interpretation of the last folio 116v. Invite me to present it (it will be first time) and invite some of the experts to debate on it. If my work is refuted -only me is losing, if it is accepted it will be win for everybody in the team, as you will have answers to very important questions. (Using the word interpretation is by purpose, as not every word in the text is clear, since there are abbreviations).

We could do this (I have an opinion about this text as well), but we will need at least one other participants then.

(01-05-2024, 10:40 AM)pjburkshire Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Personally, I would like to see a review of the letters or characters or whatever you want to call them. Where did these shapes come from? I don't know who would be the best person to interview for that topic.

I think most people accept that "a" is the Latin "a" and probably that "o" is the Latin "o" but everything else seems to be a mystery and up for debate. In the decades of research, have new sources for inspirations for these shapes come to light?

Is "d" a "d" or a "b"?

Is "e" an "e" or a "c"?

Is "s" an "s" or a "z"?

And my favorite, is "l" an "l"?

Hello,
I am new here, how did you cite Voynich M symbols? Where may I get them from?
Thank You in advance!

(17-05-2024, 06:20 PM)BessAgritianin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[quote="pjburkshire" pid='59314' dateline='1714556429']
Personally, I would like to see a review of the letters or characters or whatever you want to call them. Where did these shapes come from? I don't know who would be the best person to interview for that topic.

I think most people accept that "a" is the Latin "a" and probably that "o" is the Latin "o" but everything else seems to be a mystery and up for debate. In the decades of research, have new sources for inspirations for these shapes come to light?

Is "d" a "d" or a "b"?

Is "e" an "e" or a "c"?

Is "s" an "s" or a "z"?

And my favorite, is "l" an "l"?

Hello,
I am new here, how did you cite Voynich M symbols? Where may I get them from?
Thank You in advance!

Otherwise, from my experiences the first symbol is not "d"
second symbol may be both, the third symbol is neither "s" nor "z".
"O" is not always "o"- sometimes "a".
And maybe the only certain is "a"....
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Quote:I have good interpretation of the last folio 116v. Invite me to present it (it will be first time)

Can you publish your results, please? Personally I prefer text to video, easier to translate.

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