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There is no name in the page because the name welwitschia mirabilis itself were given in around 18th century. My conclusion about the name based on the description in my translation. Yes the picture ( from bi3mw ) is the plant Welwitschia mirabilis, but i think you could post a much better picture.

I almost forget I have not answered question from bi3mw about the ciphers. I did it manually without computer software or AI.

What about Rene's question about the most frequent words? This seems like an important test.

Before i answer ReneZ question about translation of the text he gave, I would like to explain about how I make the translation.
As i mentioned before there are rules in the ciphers, so I think the most important is to find the word that contain the consonants symbols, because the vowels symbols are uncertain. After that is to find the keywords in the paragraph and to figure out the connection between the keywords. If we know the keywords and the connection, we will be able to understand what the paragraph is trying to explain.
Back to ReneZ short text, I would say I can not find any specified keywords. Nevertheless, I will try to translate it. Here is my translation :
Lira ( ridges) monti ( mountain) limes ( limit, border) fiebant ( made) ora ( region, country). So, the meaning should be mountain ridges is the border or limit of the region or country.

Google says: iuga montium sunt fines regionis.

I don't think that was meant to be a sentence to translate. Those words (chol; daiin; chedy; qokaiin; ol) are top frequent words as Rene says, but as far as I know, those five words are never a consecutive piece of text. This is another sign that it is not your system that is producing meaning.

(19-02-2024, 12:56 AM)Rustandi Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I think the most important is to find the word that contain the consonants symbols, because the vowels symbols are uncertain. After that is to find the keywords in the paragraph and to figure out the connection between the keywords. If we know the keywords and the connection, we will be able to understand what the paragraph is trying to explain.

This is a rather good description of the method. It is important to underline that "find the word that contain the consonants" must be read as "pick one of the words that contain the consonants".

For instance, these mappings are from the first post in the thread.

Shol -> cur; Shol -> curia; Shor -> coit; Shar -> cato; Shaiin -> contio;

As can be seen, both "cur" (meaning "why") and "curia" (meaning "senate") can be picked for "shol". Voynich o/a are wildcards that can stand for any sequence of vowels: Shol and Shal are perfectly equivalent and interchangable, making word mapping many-to-many. Additional vowels can be added at will at the end of words.

This is a partial list of actual Latin words that can be picked for Shol and Shal:

cara carae care careo cari caria cariae carie cariei caro cera cerae cere cerea cerei cereo ceria ciere cieri cior cira coiere coire cor cora core cori coria coriae corie corii corio coro cur cura curae cure curi curia curiae curie curii curio curo

Additional meanings include "dear" ("cara"), "rot" ("carie"), "heart" ("cor"), "meat" ("caro"), "cure" ("cura")....

More meanings from Whitaker's "Words" dictionary:

Code:
car.a                ADJ    1 1 NOM S F POS            

car.a                ADJ    1 1 VOC S F POS            

car.a                ADJ    1 1 ABL S F POS            

car.a                ADJ    1 1 NOM P N POS            

car.a                ADJ    1 1 VOC P N POS            

car.a                ADJ    1 1 ACC P N POS            

carus, cara -um, carior -or -us, carissimus -a -um  ADJ  [XXXAO]  

dear, beloved; costly, precious, valued; high-priced, expensive;

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car.ae              ADJ    1 1 GEN S F POS            

car.ae              ADJ    1 1 DAT S F POS            

car.ae              ADJ    1 1 NOM P F POS            

car.ae              ADJ    1 1 VOC P F POS            

carus, cara -um, carior -or -us, carissimus -a -um  ADJ  [XXXAO]  

dear, beloved; costly, precious, valued; high-priced, expensive;

car.e                N      2 1 VOC S M                

Carus, Cari  N (2nd) M  [DLIEO]    Late  uncommon

Carus; (Emperor Marcus Aurelius Numerius Carus 282-283);

car.e                N      2 6 VOC S M                

caros, cari  N M  [XAXNO]    Pliny

variety/seed of plant hypericum; heavy sleep, stupor, sleep of death (L+S);

car.e                ADJ    1 1 VOC S M POS            

carus, cara -um, carior -or -us, carissimus -a -um  ADJ  [XXXAO]  

dear, beloved; costly, precious, valued; high-priced, expensive;

car.e                V      2 1 PRES ACTIVE  IMP 2 S    

careo, carere, carui, caritus  V (2nd)  [XXXAO]  

be without/absent from/devoid of/free from; miss; abstain from, lack, lose;

car.e                V      3 1 PRES ACTIVE  IMP 2 S    

caro, carere, -, -  V (3rd) TRANS  [XAXEO]    uncommon

card/comb (wool/flax/etc.);

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care                ADV    POS                        

care  ADV  [XXXFS]    veryrare

dearly; at a high price;

care, carius, carissime  ADV  [XXXCO]  

dear, at high price; of high value; at great cost/sacrifice;

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car.eo              V      2 1 PRES ACTIVE  IND 1 S    

careo, carere, carui, caritus  V (2nd)  [XXXAO]  

be without/absent from/devoid of/free from; miss; abstain from, lack, lose;

care.o              N      2 2 DAT S N                

care.o              N      2 2 ABL S N                

careum, carei  N (2nd) N  [XAXEO]    uncommon

caraway;

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car.i                N      2 1 GEN S M                

car.i                N      2 1 LOC S M                

car.i                N      2 1 NOM P M                

car.i                N      2 1 VOC P M                

Carus, Cari  N (2nd) M  [DLIEO]    Late  uncommon

Carus; (Emperor Marcus Aurelius Numerius Carus 282-283);

car.i                N      2 6 GEN S M                

car.i                N      2 6 LOC S M                

car.i                N      2 6 NOM P M                

car.i                N      2 6 VOC P M                

caros, cari  N M  [XAXNO]    Pliny

variety/seed of plant hypericum; heavy sleep, stupor, sleep of death (L+S);

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car.i                ADJ    1 1 GEN S M POS            

car.i                ADJ    1 1 GEN S N POS            

car.i                ADJ    1 1 NOM P M POS            

car.i                ADJ    1 1 VOC P M POS            

carus, cara -um, carior -or -us, carissimus -a -um  ADJ  [XXXAO]  

dear, beloved; costly, precious, valued; high-priced, expensive;

car.i                V      3 1 PRES PASSIVE INF 0 X    

caro, carere, -, -  V (3rd) TRANS  [XAXEO]    uncommon

card/comb (wool/flax/etc.);

Word mod i/y        

An internal 'i' might be rendered by 'y'

cary.a              N      2 8 NOM P N                

cary.a              N      2 8 VOC P N                

cary.a              N      2 8 ACC P N                

caryon, caryi  N N  [XAXNO]    Pliny

walnut; nut (L+S);

Word mod ae/e        

An internal 'ae' might be rendered by 'e'

cari.e              N      5 1 GEN S F                  Early  

cari.e              N      5 1 ABL S F                

caries, cariei  N (5th) F  [XXXBO]  

rot, rottenness, corruption, decay; caries; shriveling up; dry rot; ship worm;

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cari.e              N      5 1 GEN S F                  Early  

cari.e              N      5 1 ABL S F                

caries, cariei  N (5th) F  [XXXBO]  

rot, rottenness, corruption, decay; caries; shriveling up; dry rot; ship worm;

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cari.ei              N      5 1 GEN S F                

cari.ei              N      5 1 DAT S F                

caries, cariei  N (5th) F  [XXXBO]  

rot, rottenness, corruption, decay; caries; shriveling up; dry rot; ship worm;

car.o                N      2 1 DAT S M                

car.o                N      2 1 ABL S M                

Carus, Cari  N (2nd) M  [DLIEO]    Late  uncommon

Carus; (Emperor Marcus Aurelius Numerius Carus 282-283);

car.o                N      2 6 DAT S M                

car.o                N      2 6 ABL S M                

caros, cari  N M  [XAXNO]    Pliny

variety/seed of plant hypericum; heavy sleep, stupor, sleep of death (L+S);

car.o                ADJ    1 1 DAT S M POS            

car.o                ADJ    1 1 DAT S N POS            

car.o                ADJ    1 1 ABL S M POS            

car.o                ADJ    1 1 ABL S N POS            

carus, cara -um, carior -or -us, carissimus -a -um  ADJ  [XXXAO]  

dear, beloved; costly, precious, valued; high-priced, expensive;

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car.o                V      3 1 PRES ACTIVE  IND 1 S    

caro, carere, -, -  V (3rd) TRANS  [XAXEO]    uncommon

card/comb (wool/flax/etc.);

caro                ADV    POS                        

caro  ADV  [XXXFO]    veryrare

dearly; dear, at a high price;

caro                N      3 1 NOM S F                

caro                N      3 1 VOC S F                

caro, carnis  N (3rd) F  [XXXBO]  

meat, flesh; the_body; pulpy/fleshy/soft parts (plant), sapwood; low passions;

Syncope  r => v.r  

Syncopated perfect often drops the 'v' and contracts vowel

cav.ero              V      2 1 FUTP ACTIVE  IND 1 S    

caveo, cavere, cavi, cautus  V (2nd)  [XXXAO]  

beware, avoid, take precautions/defensive action; give/get surety; stipulate;

cer.a                N      1 1 NOM S F                

cer.a                N      1 1 VOC S F                

cer.a                N      1 1 ABL S F                

cera, cerae  N (1st) F  [XXXBO]  

wax, beeswax; honeycomb; wax-covered writing tablet, letter; wax image/seal;

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cer.a                V      1 1 PRES ACTIVE  IMP 2 S    

cero, cerare, ceravi, ceratus  V (1st) TRANS  [XXXFO]    veryrare

smear/coat with wax;

cer.ae              N      1 1 GEN S F                

cer.ae              N      1 1 LOC S F                

cer.ae              N      1 1 DAT S F                

cer.ae              N      1 1 NOM P F                

cer.ae              N      1 1 VOC P F                

cera, cerae  N (1st) F  [XXXBO]  

wax, beeswax; honeycomb; wax-covered writing tablet, letter; wax image/seal;

Syncope  r => v.r  

Syncopated perfect often drops the 'v' and contracts vowel

cev.ere              V      2 1 PRES ACTIVE  INF 0 X    

cev.ere              V      2 1 PRES PASSIVE IND 2 S    

cev.ere              V      2 1 PRES PASSIVE IMP 2 S    

cev.ere              V      2 1 PERF ACTIVE  IND 3 P    

ceveo, cevere, cevi, -  V (2nd) INTRANS  [XXXES]    uncommon

move haunches in a lewd or effeminate manner, practice such behavior; fawn;

cere.a              N      1 1 NOM S F                

cere.a              N      1 1 VOC S F                

cere.a              N      1 1 ABL S F                

cerea, cereae  N (1st) F  [XXSNO]    Pliny

beverage made from grain; (beer?);  Spanish drink from grain (L+S);

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cere.a              ADJ    1 1 NOM S F POS            

cere.a              ADJ    1 1 VOC S F POS            

cere.a              ADJ    1 1 ABL S F POS            

cere.a              ADJ    1 1 NOM P N POS            

cere.a              ADJ    1 1 VOC P N POS            

cere.a              ADJ    1 1 ACC P N POS            

cereus, cerea, cereum  ADJ  [XXXCO]  

waxed, waxen, of/like wax; wax colored/pale yellow; pliant/soft; easily moved;

cere.i              N      2 1 GEN S M                

cere.i              N      2 1 LOC S M                

cere.i              N      2 1 NOM P M                

cere.i              N      2 1 VOC P M                

cereus, cerei  N (2nd) M  [XXXCO]  

wax light, taper, candle;

cere.i              ADJ    1 1 GEN S M POS            

cere.i              ADJ    1 1 GEN S N POS            

cere.i              ADJ    1 1 NOM P M POS            

cere.i              ADJ    1 1 VOC P M POS            

cereus, cerea, cereum  ADJ  [XXXCO]  

waxed, waxen, of/like wax; wax colored/pale yellow; pliant/soft; easily moved;

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cere.o              N      2 1 DAT S M                

cere.o              N      2 1 ABL S M                

cereus, cerei  N (2nd) M  [XXXCO]  

wax light, taper, candle;

cere.o              ADJ    1 1 DAT S M POS            

cere.o              ADJ    1 1 DAT S N POS            

cere.o              ADJ    1 1 ABL S M POS            

cere.o              ADJ    1 1 ABL S N POS            

cereus, cerea, cereum  ADJ  [XXXCO]  

waxed, waxen, of/like wax; wax colored/pale yellow; pliant/soft; easily moved;

ceri.a              N      1 1 NOM S F                

ceri.a              N      1 1 VOC S F                

ceri.a              N      1 1 ABL S F                

ceria, ceriae  N (1st) F  [XXSNS]    Pliny

beverage made from grain; (beer?);  Spanish drink from grain (L+S);

ceri.a              N      2 2 NOM P N                

ceri.a              N      2 2 VOC P N                

ceri.a              N      2 2 ACC P N                

cerium, cerii  N (2nd) N  [XBXNO]    Pliny

cyst/growth characterized by honeycomb pattern; bad swelling/ulcer (L+S);

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ci.ere              V      2 1 PRES ACTIVE  INF 0 X    

ci.ere              V      2 1 PRES PASSIVE IND 2 S    

ci.ere              V      2 1 PRES PASSIVE IMP 2 S    

cieo, ciere, civi, citus  V (2nd) TRANS  [XXXAO]  

move, set in motion; excite/rouse/stir up; urge on; summon/muster/call up;

disturb, shake; provoke (war); invoke, call on by name; cite; raise/produce;

ci.ere              V      6 1 PRES PASSIVE IMP 2 S    

cio, cire, civi(ii), citus  V TRANS  [XXXAO]  

move, set in motion; excite/rouse/stir up; urge on; summon/muster/call up;

disturb, shake; provoke (war); invoke, call on by name; cite; raise/produce;

Syncope  ier=>iver  

Syncopated perfect often drops the 'v' and contracts vowel

civ.ere              V      2 1 PERF ACTIVE  IND 3 P    

cieo, ciere, civi, citus  V (2nd) TRANS  [XXXAO]  

move, set in motion; excite/rouse/stir up; urge on; summon/muster/call up;

disturb, shake; provoke (war); invoke, call on by name; cite; raise/produce;

civ.ere              V      6 1 PERF ACTIVE  IND 3 P    

cio, cire, civi(ii), citus  V TRANS  [XXXAO]  

move, set in motion; excite/rouse/stir up; urge on; summon/muster/call up;

disturb, shake; provoke (war); invoke, call on by name; cite; raise/produce;

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ci.eri              V      2 1 PRES PASSIVE INF 0 X    

cieo, ciere, civi, citus  V (2nd) TRANS  [XXXAO]  

move, set in motion; excite/rouse/stir up; urge on; summon/muster/call up;

disturb, shake; provoke (war); invoke, call on by name; cite; raise/produce;

ci.or                V      6 1 PRES PASSIVE IND 1 S    

cio, cire, civi(ii), citus  V TRANS  [XXXAO]  

move, set in motion; excite/rouse/stir up; urge on; summon/muster/call up;

disturb, shake; provoke (war); invoke, call on by name; cite; raise/produce;

cira                            ========  UNKNOWN    

coi.ere              V      6 1 PRES PASSIVE IMP 2 S    

coeo, coire, coivi(ii), coitus  V  [XXXAO]  

fit together; have sexual intercourse; collect/gather (fluid); meet; rally;

enter agreement; unite/assemble/conspire; come/go together; mend/knit (wound);

Syncope  ier=>iver  

Syncopated perfect often drops the 'v' and contracts vowel

coiv.ere            V      6 1 PERF ACTIVE  IND 3 P    

coeo, coire, coivi(ii), coitus  V  [XXXAO]  

fit together; have sexual intercourse; collect/gather (fluid); meet; rally;

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enter agreement; unite/assemble/conspire; come/go together; mend/knit (wound);

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coi.re              V      6 1 PRES ACTIVE  INF 0 X    

coi.re              V      6 1 PRES PASSIVE IND 2 S    

coeo, coire, coivi(ii), coitus  V  [XXXAO]  

fit together; have sexual intercourse; collect/gather (fluid); meet; rally;

enter agreement; unite/assemble/conspire; come/go together; mend/knit (wound);

cor                  N      3 2 NOM S N                

cor                  N      3 2 VOC S N                

cor                  N      3 2 ACC S N                

cor, cordis  N (3rd) N  [XXXAO]  

heart; mind/soul/spirit; intellect/judgment; sweetheart; souls/persons (pl.);

cor.a                N      1 1 NOM S F                

cor.a                N      1 1 VOC S F                

cor.a                N      1 1 ABL S F                

cora, corae  N (1st) F  [DBXFO]    Late  veryrare

pupil of the eye;

cor.e                N      2 1 VOC S M                

corus, cori  N (2nd) M  [XXXCO]  

north-west wind;

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cor.e                N      3 3 LOC S F                

cor.e                N      3 3 DAT S F                  Early  

cor.e                N      3 3 ABL S F                

coris, coris  N (3rd) F  [XAXNS]    Pliny

plant; (species of hypericon); its seed;

cor.i                N      2 1 GEN S M                

cor.i                N      2 1 LOC S M                

cor.i                N      2 1 NOM P M                

cor.i                N      2 1 VOC P M                

corus, cori  N (2nd) M  [XXXCO]  

north-west wind;

cori                N      2 4 GEN S M                  Early  

corius, cori(i)  N (2nd) M  [BAXDO]    Early  lesser

cori                N      2 4 GEN S N                  Early  

corium, cori(i)  N (2nd) N  [XAXBO]  

skin/leather/hide; peel/rind/shell/outer cover; layer/coating; thong/strap/whip

cor.i                N      3 3 LOC S F                  Early  

cor.i                N      3 3 DAT S F                

cor.i                N      3 3 ABL S F                

coris, coris  N (3rd) F  [XAXNS]    Pliny

plant; (species of hypericon); its seed;

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cori.a              N      2 4 NOM P N                

cori.a              N      2 4 VOC P N                

cori.a              N      2 4 ACC P N                

corium, cori(i)  N (2nd) N  [XAXBO]  

skin/leather/hide; peel/rind/shell/outer cover; layer/coating; thong/strap/whip

cori.a              N      2 8 NOM P N                

cori.a              N      2 8 VOC P N                

cori.a              N      2 8 ACC P N                

corion, corii  N N  [XAXNS]    Pliny

plant; (also called chamaepitys or hypericon);

Word mod ae/e        

An internal 'ae' might be rendered by 'e'

cori.e              N      2 4 VOC S M                

corius, cori(i)  N (2nd) M  [BAXDO]    Early  lesser

skin/leather/hide; peel/rind/shell/outer cover; layer/coating; thong/strap/whip

cori.e              N      2 4 VOC S M                

corius, cori(i)  N (2nd) M  [BAXDO]    Early  lesser

skin/leather/hide; peel/rind/shell/outer cover; layer/coating; thong/strap/whip

                          MORE - hit RETURN/ENTER to continue

cori.i              N      2 4 GEN S M                  Late    

cori.i              N      2 4 LOC S M                

cori.i              N      2 4 NOM P M                

cori.i              N      2 4 VOC P M                

corius, cori(i)  N (2nd) M  [BAXDO]    Early  lesser

cori.i              N      2 4 GEN S N                  Late    

cori.i              N      2 4 LOC S N                

corium, cori(i)  N (2nd) N  [XAXBO]  

skin/leather/hide; peel/rind/shell/outer cover; layer/coating; thong/strap/whip

cori.i              N      2 8 GEN S N                

cori.i              N      2 8 LOC S N                

corion, corii  N N  [XAXNS]    Pliny

plant; (also called chamaepitys or hypericon);

cori.o              N      2 4 DAT S M                

cori.o              N      2 4 ABL S M                

corius, cori(i)  N (2nd) M  [BAXDO]    Early  lesser

cori.o              N      2 4 DAT S N                

cori.o              N      2 4 ABL S N                

corium, cori(i)  N (2nd) N  [XAXBO]  

skin/leather/hide; peel/rind/shell/outer cover; layer/coating; thong/strap/whip

                          MORE - hit RETURN/ENTER to continue

cori.o              N      2 8 DAT S N                

cori.o              N      2 8 ABL S N                

corion, corii  N N  [XAXNS]    Pliny

plant; (also called chamaepitys or hypericon);

*

cor.o                N      2 1 DAT S M                

cor.o                N      2 1 ABL S M                

corus, cori  N (2nd) M  [XXXCO]  

north-west wind;

cur                  ADV    POS                        

cur  ADV  [XXXAO]  

why, wherefore; for what reason/purpose?; on account of which?; because;

cur.a                N      1 1 NOM S F                

cur.a                N      1 1 VOC S F                

cur.a                N      1 1 ABL S F                

cura, curae  N (1st) F  [XXXAO]  

concern, worry, anxiety, trouble; attention, care, pains, zeal; cure, treatment

office/task/responsibility/post; administration, supervision; command (army);

cur.a                V      1 1 PRES ACTIVE  IMP 2 S    

curo, curare, curavi, curatus  V (1st)  [XXXAO]  

arrange/see/attend to; take care of; provide for; worry/care about; heal/cure;

                          MORE - hit RETURN/ENTER to continue

undertake; procure; regard w/anxiety/interest; take trouble/interest; desire;

cur.ae              N      1 1 GEN S F                

cur.ae              N      1 1 LOC S F                

cur.ae              N      1 1 DAT S F                

cur.ae              N      1 1 NOM P F                

cur.ae              N      1 1 VOC P F                

cura, curae  N (1st) F  [XXXAO]  

concern, worry, anxiety, trouble; attention, care, pains, zeal; cure, treatment

office/task/responsibility/post; administration, supervision; command (army);

cur.e                N      3 3 LOC S F                

cur.e                N      3 3 DAT S F                  Early  

cur.e                N      3 3 ABL S F                

cures, curis  N (3rd) F  [XWXEO]    uncommon

curis, curis  N (3rd) F  [XWXEO]    uncommon

spear; (Sabine word);

cur.i                N      3 3 LOC S F                  Early  

cur.i                N      3 3 DAT S F                

cur.i                N      3 3 ABL S F                

cures, curis  N (3rd) F  [XWXEO]    uncommon

                          MORE - hit RETURN/ENTER to continue

curis, curis  N (3rd) F  [XWXEO]    uncommon

spear; (Sabine word);

curi.a              N      1 1 NOM S F                

curi.a              N      1 1 VOC S F                

curi.a              N      1 1 ABL S F                

curia, curiae  N (1st) F  [XLIBO]  

senate; meeting house; curia/division of Roman people; court (Papal/royal);

curi.a              ADJ    1 1 NOM S F POS            

curi.a              ADJ    1 1 VOC S F POS            

curi.a              ADJ    1 1 ABL S F POS            

curi.a              ADJ    1 1 NOM P N POS            

curi.a              ADJ    1 1 VOC P N POS            

curi.a              ADJ    1 1 ACC P N POS            

curius, curia, curium  ADJ  [BXXFS]    Early  veryrare

grievous; full of sorrow;

curi.ae              N      1 1 GEN S F                

curi.ae              N      1 1 LOC S F                

curi.ae              N      1 1 DAT S F                

curi.ae              N      1 1 NOM P F                

curi.ae              N      1 1 VOC P F                

curia, curiae  N (1st) F  [XLIBO]  

senate; meeting house; curia/division of Roman people; court (Papal/royal);

                          MORE - hit RETURN/ENTER to continue

curi.ae              ADJ    1 1 GEN S F POS            

curi.ae              ADJ    1 1 DAT S F POS            

curi.ae              ADJ    1 1 NOM P F POS            

curi.ae              ADJ    1 1 VOC P F POS            

curius, curia, curium  ADJ  [BXXFS]    Early  veryrare

grievous; full of sorrow;

curi.e              ADJ    1 1 VOC S M POS            

curius, curia, curium  ADJ  [BXXFS]    Early  veryrare

grievous; full of sorrow;

e                    SUFFIX                            

-ly; -ily;  Converting ADJ to ADV

curi.e              ADV    POS                        

curius, curia, curium  ADJ  [BXXFS]    Early  veryrare

grievous; full of sorrow;

curi.i              ADJ    1 1 GEN S M POS            

curi.i              ADJ    1 1 GEN S N POS            

curi.i              ADJ    1 1 NOM P M POS            

curi.i              ADJ    1 1 VOC P M POS            

curius, curia, curium  ADJ  [BXXFS]    Early  veryrare

grievous; full of sorrow;

                          MORE - hit RETURN/ENTER to continue

curi.o              ADJ    1 1 DAT S M POS            

curi.o              ADJ    1 1 DAT S N POS            

curi.o              ADJ    1 1 ABL S M POS            

curi.o              ADJ    1 1 ABL S N POS            

curius, curia, curium  ADJ  [BXXFS]    Early  veryrare

grievous; full of sorrow;

curio                N      3 1 NOM S M                

curio                N      3 1 VOC S M                

curio, curionis  N (3rd) M  [XEIEO]    uncommon

priest presiding over a curia; crier/herald; [~ maximus => chief of this sect];

curio                ADJ    3 1 NOM S X POS            

curio                ADJ    3 1 VOC S X POS            

curio                ADJ    3 1 ACC S N POS            

curio, (gen.), curionis  ADJ  [BXXFS]    Early  veryrare

lean, emaciated; wasted by sorrow; (pun on curiosus);

cur.o                V      1 1 PRES ACTIVE  IND 1 S    

curo, curare, curavi, curatus  V (1st)  [XXXAO]  

arrange/see/attend to; take care of; provide for; worry/care about; heal/cure;

undertake; procure; regard w/anxiety/interest; take trouble/interest; desire;

Thank you marcoP for thorough explanation, you are absolutely right. That is why we need to find the keywords.
Also as I said before I am not latin language expert, so this is where latin language expert should be involved in order to know the right words, where the sentences start and end, etc.
I am hoping that anyone here could do that.

I'm sorry, but this is a kind of solution we often see. No wonder: Voynichese is so constricted, so people often intuit that they can only turn it into language if they introduce some freedom and variability.

The problem here is that as soon as this degree of freedom is allowed, the amount of possible translations for a page increases exponentially. For example, if we allow only two possible readings per word for a page of a hundred words, the number of possible solutions for that one page is two to the power of 100, which is 1 nonillion 267 octillion 650 septillion 600 sextillion 228 quintillion 229 quadrillion 401 trillion 496 billion 703 million 205 thousand 376. I.e. a very large number.

Yes i understand your worry. But that is the reason keywords are very important. Sometimes they are easy to find, I will give one example :
From the picture below one of the keywords is the first word Balaustiis ( pomegranate flower). So the plant is pomegranate.

I have the impression that you ignore the existence of transcriptions of the text accessible on the internet, to only work with the images of the manuscript.

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