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If a code referring to the Bible, then what comes to mind is 8:21 or 21:8. Not sure which book, though Smile

Mark 8:21:

Quote:And he said unto them, How is it that ye do not understand?

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I didn't post anyhing on the forum long time, and not sure to be active from now, but almost always read new posts to be a little bit familiar with the latest news.
I still think it can be Lunaria annua with 29,5 / 30 lunar days.

It even don't contradict the "thirty coins" theory, as it is also widely known as the "Money Plant", "Silver Dollars", in Sweden (and maybe, somewhere else) - "Coins of Judas".
I'm not sure about what implied the author depicting such kind of edges, but, possibly, it is his/her impression from seed "channels".
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P. S. Some scientists consider the "thirty silver coins" mean exactly Lunar cycle, and three days before resurrection - a period before the New Moon is appeared (becomes visible in the sky).
We call it the Money Plant here too (my garden is full of it) and I'm pretty sure it is one of the several different lunarias mentioned in medieval herbals.
I think that's a very good idea.

In Pritzel, Lunaria biennis is attested (among other things) as "Pfennigblume" in East Prussia, "Silberblatter" in Switzerland and Thuringia, notably "Judassilberling" (!) in Magdeburg, then also "Mondkraut" and "Mondviole" in Silesia.

And, of course, 29 hints the lunar month.

Now, what are the roots here, remains unclear. I'm more and more inclined to think that roots mnemonics do not point at plant names. perhaps rather at use.

As a side note, I'm not sure why the discussion of this folio is split in two threads, if there are no objections, I'd prefer to merge them.
The flowers are not resembling those of Lunaria, though.
Nope, the flowers don't look like Lunaria, I agree. The roots don't either.

They look like aster flowers (especially thistles, centauria, etc.).

The fibrous base looks like nard and certain kinds of ferns.


The first time I saw it I thought Venus flytrap, but the stalks are all wrong. After thinking about it for a while, the closest match I could think of was Asparagus, which has long rows of red and green berries and a huge root, but it's not a perfect ID either. I've never been completely sure about this plant.
Why, roots are quite similar, in my opinion.

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(17-08-2019, 12:21 AM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Why, roots are quite similar, in my opinion.

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The picture has the whole plant cut off which makes the root look much bigger than it is.

Lunaria is quite tall and the roots quite small in relation to the plant. My garden is full of them. The plants are about 4 feet high, occasionally higher, and the roots only a few inches.

If we are to believe the VMS root size in proportion to the plants, the roots are large but... they look like animals, so maybe the size is exaggerated to accommodate the mnemonic/narrative or whatever the purpose of the "animals".
JKP wrote:
Quote:Nope, the flowers don't look like Lunaria, I agree. The roots don't either.

They look like aster flowers (especially thistles, centauria, etc.).

These flowers were always a problem here, they really look extraneous. I like David's thought about flowers of thistle and wheat growing around the stem as an additional hint to the particular story. Although the color of flowers must be blue or, at least, red, I think, anomal coloring is possible in the VMs.
I also had an idea what the flowers are, but I couldn't explain why they are appeared exactly here and in combination with quite another plant.
The crazy eureka visited me today, perhaps, inspired by you. Of course, it is not an absolute solution, but, at least, one of possible explanations.
The buds of flowers always reminded me the flowers of Helichrysum (Immortelle). As I'm not an expert in botanic, I won't put my hands to identify which specie exactly.
Lunaria with its different names always was associated with Silver and Moon, meantime, the name Helichrysum means the "golden Sun" or "sunny-gold". So, it turns out to be a union of the two herbs: solar (gold) and lunar (silver).

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Helichrysum massanellanum (Photograph: L. Sáez)
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