The Voynich Ninja

That's a nice one, Koen. I love the sense of aesthetics one sees in Persian and Japanese works of art, and the Persian ones are so detailed.

Also, the way the constellation and its associated "star" (Luna) are combined with "the man in the moon" is pretty cool.

(18-11-2016, 05:16 PM)VViews Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.....
70r2: a central figure containing a face (discussed in the above posts) surrounded by a band of text. A second circle is drawn around it, from which sixteen shapes protrude: every other one is a short, wavy, flame-like shape, while the remaining 8 form an initial bulb which stretches outwards in straight lines to meet the edges of a third circle. In between each of these, 8 more shapes, triangular with scalloped edges, also point towards the outer circle, ending in straight lines.
The diagram is surrounded by four bands of text.
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Looking at the other two folios, there may be some significance to the number of features depicted: 70v1's 58 petals and 9 divisions, or 70v2's 16 (or 2x8) divisions.
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very late to this particular party/thread though I remembered the mention of 'sixteen' here on Ninja... I came across a quote of sixteen in an astronomical sense: Here is a quote form Cicero, De Divinatione (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.) that mentions that the Etruscians divided the sky into 16 sections fitting the f70v2 16-fold division:

'... long-continued observation is employed in the case of lightnings, and reason and conjecture are generally employed in the case of portents. But what is it that has been observed in the case of lightnings? The Etruscans divided the sky into sixteen parts. Of course it was easy enough for them to double the four parts into which we divide it and then double that total and tell from which one of those divisions a bolt of lightning had come. In the first place, what difference does its location make? and, in the second place, what does it foretell? It is perfectly evident that, out of the wonder and fear excited in primitive man by lightning and thunderbolts, sprang his belief that those phenomena were caused by omnipotent Jove. And so we find it recorded in our augural annals: 'When Jove thunders or lightens it is impious to hold an election.'

(17-11-2016, 03:09 PM)VViews Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi everyone,
it seems that most of the focus on the "astronomy" section has been about the part contained in Q9.
I'd like to discuss the diagrams we find in Quire 10, just before the beginning of the "zodiac".

The folios in question are You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. , f69v, f70r1 & f70r2. Compared to the previous set, they contain a lot less stars and a lot more other features such as tubes and weird foamy/bubbly-like designs ( see f70r1).
The figure at the center of 70r2 looks really majestic, much more than the "sun" in the previous folios. Maybe that's just my impression, but this figure seems important.

There's a You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. on Ellie Velinska's site where she compared You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. to a wind diagram on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Oxford St. John's College MS 17.

I saw a You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. on the old list thanks to a link on Stephen Bax's site, in which Adam McLean & ReneZ discussed 69v and referred to it as the "28 mansions of the moon" folio.

There is a post by Robert Teague in the List archives (sorry I can't link to those) where he says he believes the foamy designs on f70r1 are trees, and that this folio represents 'The world".

There is also another post in the list archives about this whole foldout by a poster named SD, but to be honest, I couldn't make any sense of what the poster meant, other than his claim that "The VM will destroy Mankind unless people repent and return to God's (Gardening) Plan"...

I am sure there must have been more discussion of this Quire before. It includes the beginning of the "Zodiac" section so I'd expect it to be somewhat related to astrology, but who knows?
I'm really curious to know what other posters' interpretations of these folios may be, or if you have any links to blogposts or discussions about them that  I haven't listed above.

These and other Voynich illustrations are very reminiscent to the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.