<![CDATA[The Voynich Ninja - Marginalia]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/ Mon, 05 Oct 2026 00:27:06 +0000 MyBB <![CDATA[[Competition] Best folio number parallels.]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-6148.html Fri, 02 Oct 2026 20:00:54 +0000 Koen G]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-6148.html
I didn't do anything with this yet, since I have no idea how it compares to other manuscripts. Probably this style of writing numbers is extremely common. But how common exactly? Are some features rare or typical for a certain time/region?

Now I just had an idea: why not make a friendly competition out of it? Everyone can recognize numerals in manuscripts, so it doesn't require special skills, just some patience and investigation. My own submission is far from perfect and can be beaten. (I told Marco about it when I found it, so there is a witness to my having selected a manuscript Wink)

I prepared a reference image of the VM foliation, taking into account variations for each number. Notice especially the two types of "3", one of which has a remarkable spike on top and a flatter top stroke.

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I also prepared a spreadsheet, you could use your own copy of it to compare the VM foliation to other numbers you find. See here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Rules
  1. A submitted series of numerals must be from the same manuscript.
  2. Try to find a full series, at least 1 -> 9.
  3. When you want to submit a series, just PM me, or post it here in [spoiler] tags. My reason for keeping submissions secret would be to avoid a premature focus on a single time and place.
  4. If you happen to find a better series later, you can submit that as well - more data points.
  5. Try to compose an image or share your numbers in a copy of the spreadsheet, so that I don't have to hunt through your manuscript to gather numbers from various folios.
  6. Manuscripts will remain a secret until the end, but I will sometimes provide a "leaderboard" based on my subjective feeling. After a while we will come up with a good way to rate.
  7. PLEASE find something that's better than mine - it would look silly if I win my own competition!
  8. At the end, I will add everything to the public spreadsheet.
  9. The winner gets to pick a special color for their row in the spreadsheet as a reward Wink

Of course, the goal of this is to collectively learn more about the context of these numerals. Feel free to discuss everything in this thread:
  • strategies for finding numerals
  • which variations are easy to find, which numbers are harder to match
  • specific properties of numbers we should pay attention to
  • ...
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I didn't do anything with this yet, since I have no idea how it compares to other manuscripts. Probably this style of writing numbers is extremely common. But how common exactly? Are some features rare or typical for a certain time/region?

Now I just had an idea: why not make a friendly competition out of it? Everyone can recognize numerals in manuscripts, so it doesn't require special skills, just some patience and investigation. My own submission is far from perfect and can be beaten. (I told Marco about it when I found it, so there is a witness to my having selected a manuscript Wink)

I prepared a reference image of the VM foliation, taking into account variations for each number. Notice especially the two types of "3", one of which has a remarkable spike on top and a flatter top stroke.

.jpg   numbers.jpg (Size: 261.19 KB / Downloads: 223)
I also prepared a spreadsheet, you could use your own copy of it to compare the VM foliation to other numbers you find. See here: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Rules
  1. A submitted series of numerals must be from the same manuscript.
  2. Try to find a full series, at least 1 -> 9.
  3. When you want to submit a series, just PM me, or post it here in [spoiler] tags. My reason for keeping submissions secret would be to avoid a premature focus on a single time and place.
  4. If you happen to find a better series later, you can submit that as well - more data points.
  5. Try to compose an image or share your numbers in a copy of the spreadsheet, so that I don't have to hunt through your manuscript to gather numbers from various folios.
  6. Manuscripts will remain a secret until the end, but I will sometimes provide a "leaderboard" based on my subjective feeling. After a while we will come up with a good way to rate.
  7. PLEASE find something that's better than mine - it would look silly if I win my own competition!
  8. At the end, I will add everything to the public spreadsheet.
  9. The winner gets to pick a special color for their row in the spreadsheet as a reward Wink

Of course, the goal of this is to collectively learn more about the context of these numerals. Feel free to discuss everything in this thread:
  • strategies for finding numerals
  • which variations are easy to find, which numbers are harder to match
  • specific properties of numbers we should pay attention to
  • ...
]]> <![CDATA[More charms]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-6146.html Fri, 02 Oct 2026 11:48:59 +0000 Rafal]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-6146.html
There is this manuscript called Dresden M206
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It is a bit about fortune telling and a bit about magic.

It seems to contain a lot of charms or things similar to a charm on the last page of Voynich.
Like the Voynich charm they seem to contain a mix of real and made-up words.

Some interesting words that give "michiton oladabas" vibes and others:

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There is a lot of them. Maybe you will be able to find something more?  Smile]]>
There is this manuscript called Dresden M206
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It is a bit about fortune telling and a bit about magic.

It seems to contain a lot of charms or things similar to a charm on the last page of Voynich.
Like the Voynich charm they seem to contain a mix of real and made-up words.

Some interesting words that give "michiton oladabas" vibes and others:

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There is a lot of them. Maybe you will be able to find something more?  Smile]]> <![CDATA[Could the charm on f116v be a book curse?]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-6144.html Thu, 01 Oct 2026 20:40:49 +0000 Dcoop28]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-6144.html
I was wondering if has been considered that the charm on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. could be a book curse? I recently realized that many manuscripts from a similar time period have something along the lines of "If you steal this book, you will be cursed!" The only problem to this speculation is that I, after a brief search, have not found any similar matches. 

Thanks]]>
I was wondering if has been considered that the charm on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. could be a book curse? I recently realized that many manuscripts from a similar time period have something along the lines of "If you steal this book, you will be cursed!" The only problem to this speculation is that I, after a brief search, have not found any similar matches. 

Thanks]]> <![CDATA[The Paxlebens from Mechetin]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-6079.html Mon, 14 Sep 2026 18:44:05 +0000 JustAnotherTheory]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-6079.html Adelsgeschicht):


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This is a funny coincidence because in the folio 116v of the VMS we see what appears to be the words "poxleber" and "michiton":


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Could it be that "poxleber" is "paxleben" and "michiton" is an old medieval form of today's "mechetin"? Note that the town of Mechetin has had several different names over the years, including Mechtentin, Mechenthin, Miechecino, and more.

In the encyclopedia of extinct noble family crests (yes, such a thing exists), we see this:


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Some of these elements remind one of the VMS:


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But then again, these are cherry picked, so most likely once again a coincidence.

But a cool one, I might add.]]> Adelsgeschicht):


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This is a funny coincidence because in the folio 116v of the VMS we see what appears to be the words "poxleber" and "michiton":


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Could it be that "poxleber" is "paxleben" and "michiton" is an old medieval form of today's "mechetin"? Note that the town of Mechetin has had several different names over the years, including Mechtentin, Mechenthin, Miechecino, and more.

In the encyclopedia of extinct noble family crests (yes, such a thing exists), we see this:


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Some of these elements remind one of the VMS:


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But then again, these are cherry picked, so most likely once again a coincidence.

But a cool one, I might add.]]> <![CDATA[Possible related charm for f116v]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-6069.html Wed, 09 Sep 2026 13:43:55 +0000 Rafal]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-6069.html

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I mean the word "ahia" from VM. Maybe it's not "ahia" after all? In my charm there is something looking a bit similar and also unsure. I marked it for you.

The charm, according to Gemini AI, seems to say:

So schrib diese wort vnd drag sie by dir
Caput xpi [christi] + fons elye + orti ysaie + nasus moysi + libra noe + lingua salomonis + sanguis abel + mens benjamin + abra heliam + gracia iohannis + et pax xpi [christi] hodie et cottidie et semper mecũ [mecum] Amen


So write these words and carry them with you:
Head of Christ + fountain of Elijah + garden of Isaiah + nose of Moses + balance of Noah + tongue of Solomon + blood of Abel + mind of Benjamin + ??? + grace of John + and the peace of Christ today and daily and forever with me. Amen.

"Abra heliam" doesn't really make sense. Also "abia" and "ahia" don't make sense.

But what if the word is actually some corrupted form of "labia" which is mouth? That would make sense as the charm mentions other body parts. It would mean "mouth of someone".

The man's name is also unsure. Heliam, Hesiam, Hesiim? The working candidates would be Isaiah, Elijah, Jesse and Elisha. However Isaiah and Elijah are already mentioned

Can you read something with more certainty? 
And could "ahia/abra" be labia, both in my example and Voynich Manuscript?]]>

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I mean the word "ahia" from VM. Maybe it's not "ahia" after all? In my charm there is something looking a bit similar and also unsure. I marked it for you.

The charm, according to Gemini AI, seems to say:

So schrib diese wort vnd drag sie by dir
Caput xpi [christi] + fons elye + orti ysaie + nasus moysi + libra noe + lingua salomonis + sanguis abel + mens benjamin + abra heliam + gracia iohannis + et pax xpi [christi] hodie et cottidie et semper mecũ [mecum] Amen


So write these words and carry them with you:
Head of Christ + fountain of Elijah + garden of Isaiah + nose of Moses + balance of Noah + tongue of Solomon + blood of Abel + mind of Benjamin + ??? + grace of John + and the peace of Christ today and daily and forever with me. Amen.

"Abra heliam" doesn't really make sense. Also "abia" and "ahia" don't make sense.

But what if the word is actually some corrupted form of "labia" which is mouth? That would make sense as the charm mentions other body parts. It would mean "mouth of someone".

The man's name is also unsure. Heliam, Hesiam, Hesiim? The working candidates would be Isaiah, Elijah, Jesse and Elisha. However Isaiah and Elijah are already mentioned

Can you read something with more certainty? 
And could "ahia/abra" be labia, both in my example and Voynich Manuscript?]]> <![CDATA[German medicinal charm recipe metastudy]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-6047.html Fri, 28 Aug 2026 12:22:02 +0000 Bernd]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-6047.html
Provinzialbibliothek Amberg Ms. 77 - Varia opuscula medica scripta (Arzneilehre, Kräuterbuch, Amberger Malerbüchlein)
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Unfortunately the age is only given as 'Mittelalter', and no location.
Provenience: from the Cistercian abbey of Waldsassen in Oberpfalz, Bavaria. In the Holy Roman Empire it was an Imperial Abbey.

Contains german recipe, latin charm, crosses, so nim, gaissmilch, large line-end 'o'. Letter 'g' contains a rightward horizontal stroke.]]>
Provinzialbibliothek Amberg Ms. 77 - Varia opuscula medica scripta (Arzneilehre, Kräuterbuch, Amberger Malerbüchlein)
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Unfortunately the age is only given as 'Mittelalter', and no location.
Provenience: from the Cistercian abbey of Waldsassen in Oberpfalz, Bavaria. In the Holy Roman Empire it was an Imperial Abbey.

Contains german recipe, latin charm, crosses, so nim, gaissmilch, large line-end 'o'. Letter 'g' contains a rightward horizontal stroke.]]> <![CDATA[Subsitution key on f1r]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-6027.html Mon, 17 Aug 2026 23:16:51 +0000 exlipsiae]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-6027.html Register or Login to view. 


Going by the article, this might have been an early attempt at translation conducted by Johannes Marcus Marci. Now I know that this key cannot provide any actual translation of the manuscript. All the same I was curious as to why specifically this key was chosen. After all, someone (Marci according to the handwriting analysis) must have had a hunch that this was the way to go. They made sure to write it down on the very first folio. If they were just toying around why not scribble on some piece of paper instead of the actual vellum? 

So I matched the table above to EVA transliteration and applied the key to the full "text" of the manuscript. The result can be seen in the attached file (split for file size). There are a couple of legit words that in there, but nothing that really stands out as a likely starting point for Marci's substitution attempt. If he believed an simple substitution was behind it (and not having the luxury of conducting computer powered brute force attempts), I would expect that he would pick some word standing by themselves or serving as a label to some image and go from there. "Rex" (latin for "king") shows up a couple of times, but usually in the middle of text blocks and not matching any part of the text you might expect to say "king". 

Of course we do not know what Marci would have thought the original language of the manuscript to be. 
  • Does anyone know a good method to double check if there are more meaningful words in this substitution in any appropriate language?

There is also a chance that his key did produce some legitimate plain text words, but only in the folios lost to us. This might be supported by the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.that do not appear anywhere else in the text. 
  • Are there any theories as to their meaning?

Funny enough, there is one word that does appear quite clearly, showing up 17 times and perfectly describes my success rate so far: "bleak" Cry

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Going by the article, this might have been an early attempt at translation conducted by Johannes Marcus Marci. Now I know that this key cannot provide any actual translation of the manuscript. All the same I was curious as to why specifically this key was chosen. After all, someone (Marci according to the handwriting analysis) must have had a hunch that this was the way to go. They made sure to write it down on the very first folio. If they were just toying around why not scribble on some piece of paper instead of the actual vellum? 

So I matched the table above to EVA transliteration and applied the key to the full "text" of the manuscript. The result can be seen in the attached file (split for file size). There are a couple of legit words that in there, but nothing that really stands out as a likely starting point for Marci's substitution attempt. If he believed an simple substitution was behind it (and not having the luxury of conducting computer powered brute force attempts), I would expect that he would pick some word standing by themselves or serving as a label to some image and go from there. "Rex" (latin for "king") shows up a couple of times, but usually in the middle of text blocks and not matching any part of the text you might expect to say "king". 

Of course we do not know what Marci would have thought the original language of the manuscript to be. 
  • Does anyone know a good method to double check if there are more meaningful words in this substitution in any appropriate language?

There is also a chance that his key did produce some legitimate plain text words, but only in the folios lost to us. This might be supported by the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.that do not appear anywhere else in the text. 
  • Are there any theories as to their meaning?

Funny enough, there is one word that does appear quite clearly, showing up 17 times and perfectly describes my success rate so far: "bleak" Cry

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.txt   EVA_marci_2.txt (Size: 186.25 KB / Downloads: 23) ]]> <![CDATA[Another good Swiss handwriting match to f116v]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-6011.html Sun, 09 Aug 2026 16:14:51 +0000 magnesium]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-6011.html
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Anyway, it is from You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (early 1500s), Switzerland.


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My reading: "... oder mit eynem guten Syrop / Sommer boxleber / es koste was es wolle / es sol uns kein gelt rewen".

Source: Augsburg, Staats- und Stadtbibliothek -- 4 Th H 1735

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Anyway, it is from You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (early 1500s), Switzerland.


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My reading: "... oder mit eynem guten Syrop / Sommer boxleber / es koste was es wolle / es sol uns kein gelt rewen".

Source: Augsburg, Staats- und Stadtbibliothek -- 4 Th H 1735

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.]]> <![CDATA[Summary of the "Big Wipe" theory for the f116v]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-5993.html Sun, 02 Aug 2026 06:20:47 +0000 Jorge_Stolfi]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-5993.html Register or Login to view. of the "Big Wipe" theory for the "michiton" text of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. to the "Retracing" thread.  There is also You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. at my university's site. 

All the best, --stolfi]]> Register or Login to view. of the "Big Wipe" theory for the "michiton" text of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. to the "Retracing" thread.  There is also You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. at my university's site. 

All the best, --stolfi]]> <![CDATA[Last line of f116v]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-5972.html Mon, 27 Jul 2026 22:15:50 +0000 Carnby]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-5972.html Register or Login to view. and at some of the German readings that have been proposed for it. A different possibility occurred to me. I would segment part of the line as:

[Voynichese "words"] valsch vůren [...] so nim Got(ſ) mich [plummeting stone]

The two forms that particularly interest me are therefore valsch vůren, with possible normalized modern equivalent falsch führen. In fact, initial v- for f- is well attested in Middle High German.

Finding exact parallels is not straightforward. Depending on scribal practice, the initial u/v shapes could be differentiated in different ways, and modern editors might transcribe or normalize a comparable form quite differently (v-, u-, uv-, uu-, w-, etc.). The semicircular superscript sign, possibly indicating Umlaut, introduces another variable, so searching electronically for one particular spelling could be misleading.

Instead, nim rather than modern nimm seems less remarkable to me, but it still deserves some caution as far as spelling normalization is concerned, as does the possible Got(ſ).

This leads me to two related questions:

  1. Is the identification of the form I have tentatively written vůren with führen palaeographically and linguistically plausible for a 15th-century German text?
  2. If so, are there contemporary attestations of falsch + führen (in whatever spelling), and what would the construction have meant at the time?
]]> Register or Login to view. and at some of the German readings that have been proposed for it. A different possibility occurred to me. I would segment part of the line as:

[Voynichese "words"] valsch vůren [...] so nim Got(ſ) mich [plummeting stone]

The two forms that particularly interest me are therefore valsch vůren, with possible normalized modern equivalent falsch führen. In fact, initial v- for f- is well attested in Middle High German.

Finding exact parallels is not straightforward. Depending on scribal practice, the initial u/v shapes could be differentiated in different ways, and modern editors might transcribe or normalize a comparable form quite differently (v-, u-, uv-, uu-, w-, etc.). The semicircular superscript sign, possibly indicating Umlaut, introduces another variable, so searching electronically for one particular spelling could be misleading.

Instead, nim rather than modern nimm seems less remarkable to me, but it still deserves some caution as far as spelling normalization is concerned, as does the possible Got(ſ).

This leads me to two related questions:

  1. Is the identification of the form I have tentatively written vůren with führen palaeographically and linguistically plausible for a 15th-century German text?
  2. If so, are there contemporary attestations of falsch + führen (in whatever spelling), and what would the construction have meant at the time?
]]> <![CDATA[[split] Big f116v spillover thread.]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-5950.html Tue, 21 Jul 2026 10:03:59 +0000 ololololo]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-5950.html [Edit KG: I'm hijacking this first post for some explanation. All too often, discussions on matters Voynichese end up on the same old You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. debates, like some weird version of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. When this happens and really takes threads off-topic, we will simply move those posts here. Feel free to keep discussing in this thread.]



(21-07-2026, 09:53 AM)J_Voy Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I just find it hard to believe that handwriting analysis of the marginalia that almost perfectly lines up with the dates of the vellum being produced is actually a wiped off, then a scribe writing over it would just so happen to almost perfectly mimic that writing style, I see the possibility, and if further evidence appears for this, I will change my mind about this, but I just don't believe it is probable, and plus, on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. there appears to be a drawing of both a goat, and a nymph, the goat matches up with the first and last words, 'poxleber', and 'gaſmich' which are generally believed to translate to 'buck's liver' and 'goat's milk' respectively. In my opinion, that long s is almost certainly a long s, as the reading gaſmich, actually means something, what would 'gafmich' mean? Nothing, we don't even see a clear crossbar than an f would have, as well as the fact that first you're taking the liver of a goat, then the milk of a goat? It makes more sense. Anyway, the nymph could represent the two Voynichese words, (aror Sheey)why wouldn't these also be washed away?
The nymphs and the goat on the left do not seem to fit with the author's style (especially when compared to the nymphs from balneology). You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. can be either an attempt to reconstruct the text or You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. I don't really believe that this is You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., because in the end, it feels like stretching an owl on a globe.]]> [Edit KG: I'm hijacking this first post for some explanation. All too often, discussions on matters Voynichese end up on the same old You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. debates, like some weird version of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. When this happens and really takes threads off-topic, we will simply move those posts here. Feel free to keep discussing in this thread.]



(21-07-2026, 09:53 AM)J_Voy Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I just find it hard to believe that handwriting analysis of the marginalia that almost perfectly lines up with the dates of the vellum being produced is actually a wiped off, then a scribe writing over it would just so happen to almost perfectly mimic that writing style, I see the possibility, and if further evidence appears for this, I will change my mind about this, but I just don't believe it is probable, and plus, on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. there appears to be a drawing of both a goat, and a nymph, the goat matches up with the first and last words, 'poxleber', and 'gaſmich' which are generally believed to translate to 'buck's liver' and 'goat's milk' respectively. In my opinion, that long s is almost certainly a long s, as the reading gaſmich, actually means something, what would 'gafmich' mean? Nothing, we don't even see a clear crossbar than an f would have, as well as the fact that first you're taking the liver of a goat, then the milk of a goat? It makes more sense. Anyway, the nymph could represent the two Voynichese words, (aror Sheey)why wouldn't these also be washed away?
The nymphs and the goat on the left do not seem to fit with the author's style (especially when compared to the nymphs from balneology). You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. can be either an attempt to reconstruct the text or You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. I don't really believe that this is You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., because in the end, it feels like stretching an owl on a globe.]]> <![CDATA[Is "porta8" on f116v a Latin abbreviated word?]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-5931.html Fri, 17 Jul 2026 07:09:43 +0000 JustAnotherTheory]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-5931.html Register or Login to view. is actually a Latin abbreviated word:


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The reason is that I found several examples of 14-15th century Latin manuscripts, with this exact word (ending in "8"):


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Could someone who speaks good Latin translate what "porta8" could be in these cases? I suspect the "8" is an abbreviation.

If it is so common, in 14-15th century texts, could this mean that the VMS You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is also (partly) Latin?

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BSB Clm 2660 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
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BSB Clm 2704 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.]]> Register or Login to view. is actually a Latin abbreviated word:


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The reason is that I found several examples of 14-15th century Latin manuscripts, with this exact word (ending in "8"):


.png   qwmn.png (Size: 570.43 KB / Downloads: 209)

Could someone who speaks good Latin translate what "porta8" could be in these cases? I suspect the "8" is an abbreviation.

If it is so common, in 14-15th century texts, could this mean that the VMS You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is also (partly) Latin?

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BSB Clm 2660 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
BSB Clm 75 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
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BSB Clm 2704 You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.]]> <![CDATA[A funny coincidence with the marginalia on f116v]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-5912.html Sun, 12 Jul 2026 11:39:58 +0000 JustAnotherTheory]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-5912.html

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It's on the bottom row of page 33.

Anyway, it's most probably nothing but I found it cool.]]>

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Source MS (from 1515 Germany): You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

It's on the bottom row of page 33.

Anyway, it's most probably nothing but I found it cool.]]> <![CDATA[f116v is a decryption attempt?]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-5910.html Sun, 12 Jul 2026 07:38:20 +0000 ololololo]]> https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-5910.html What if You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is an attempt to translate a recipe? It's possible that the person thought they could translate the manuscript (or they could, but they weren't very good at it), so they decided to take a random recipe and translate it on the last page. He may not have been able to translate the letter d, as it appears in the words, and he may not have been able to translate aror (oror) sheey, and the only thing that made sense in his "translation" was "so nim gas mich". "marix morix vix" may be a repetition as "qokedy qokedy qokeedy"
I could not find the combination aror sheey or oror sheey in the manuscript. There are recipes where the word before sheey is similar to oror: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (...ol rar sheey ylar...); You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (...airal sheey...); You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (...ar sheey...). 

What do you think?]]> What if You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is an attempt to translate a recipe? It's possible that the person thought they could translate the manuscript (or they could, but they weren't very good at it), so they decided to take a random recipe and translate it on the last page. He may not have been able to translate the letter d, as it appears in the words, and he may not have been able to translate aror (oror) sheey, and the only thing that made sense in his "translation" was "so nim gas mich". "marix morix vix" may be a repetition as "qokedy qokedy qokeedy"
I could not find the combination aror sheey or oror sheey in the manuscript. There are recipes where the word before sheey is similar to oror: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (...ol rar sheey ylar...); You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (...airal sheey...); You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (...ar sheey...). 

What do you think?]]>