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			<title><![CDATA[Harvard physicist's take on the VMS]]></title>
			<link>https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-6147.html</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2026 12:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Yesterday, Harvard physicist Matthew Schwartz unveiled a very powerful LLM harness for quantitative science called You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view., as well as a whopping 36 papers he has authored or coauthored using the tool. Among them is Schwartz's take on how the VMS was written, which is that it's iteratively generated gibberish:<br />
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His abstract:<br />
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<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The Voynich manuscript is an illustrated book of the early fifteenth century in a script no one has been able to read. Since Rugg, and then Timm and Schinner, showed that text with many of its statistics can be produced mechanically, quantitative study has come to favor a writing procedure over a cipher or an unknown language. Here we make that picture precise with quantitative tools: information theory, efficient methods for mixture-model computation using exact arithmetic, and solvers validated on planted test cases. Readings and text generators become probability models, fitted on half a scribe’s pages and judged on the rest. In six candidate languages, readings by simple or verbose substitution, consonantal writing, abbreviation, codebooks and the Naibbe cipher all fail on withheld pages. Such failures exclude a reading only where the test detects disguised real text of the same kind, so far only for scripture. Knowing a word barely helps predict the next, less than in any comparison text, glossaries included, yet the edge glyphs of adjacent words are coupled as strongly as in a recipe collection. The scribes reused their words, occasionally copied a recent one, and coined others by letter habit; this keyless procedure reproduces nearly all summary statistics of both principal hands. No proposed generator, ours included, reproduces that coupling. Two weak traces of content remain: distinctive label words and a faint dependence of word choice on subject. The low cost of the writing and the genres the pictures imitate suggest a book made to be looked at, not read.</span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Yesterday, Harvard physicist Matthew Schwartz unveiled a very powerful LLM harness for quantitative science called You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view., as well as a whopping 36 papers he has authored or coauthored using the tool. Among them is Schwartz's take on how the VMS was written, which is that it's iteratively generated gibberish:<br />
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His abstract:<br />
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<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The Voynich manuscript is an illustrated book of the early fifteenth century in a script no one has been able to read. Since Rugg, and then Timm and Schinner, showed that text with many of its statistics can be produced mechanically, quantitative study has come to favor a writing procedure over a cipher or an unknown language. Here we make that picture precise with quantitative tools: information theory, efficient methods for mixture-model computation using exact arithmetic, and solvers validated on planted test cases. Readings and text generators become probability models, fitted on half a scribe’s pages and judged on the rest. In six candidate languages, readings by simple or verbose substitution, consonantal writing, abbreviation, codebooks and the Naibbe cipher all fail on withheld pages. Such failures exclude a reading only where the test detects disguised real text of the same kind, so far only for scripture. Knowing a word barely helps predict the next, less than in any comparison text, glossaries included, yet the edge glyphs of adjacent words are coupled as strongly as in a recipe collection. The scribes reused their words, occasionally copied a recent one, and coined others by letter habit; this keyless procedure reproduces nearly all summary statistics of both principal hands. No proposed generator, ours included, reproduces that coupling. Two weak traces of content remain: distinctive label words and a faint dependence of word choice on subject. The low cost of the writing and the genres the pictures imitate suggest a book made to be looked at, not read.</span>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Technical rebuttal: semantic density and the “Naibbe” verbosity constraint]]></title>
			<link>https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-6067.html</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2026 22:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[There is a You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view. to the editor by Domingo Delgado: Technical rebuttal: semantic density and the “Naibbe” verbosity constraint"<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Technical rebuttal: semantic density and the “Naibbe” verbosity constraint." Cryptologia, ahead-of-print(ahead-of-print), pp. 1–2</blockquote>
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Delgado also wrote at You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view. about the paper:<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>I’m pleased to share that my paper, “Technical Rebuttal: Semantic Density and the ‘Naibbe’ Verbosity Constraint,” has been accepted for publication in Cryptologia and is now in production with Taylor &amp; Francis.<br />
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The paper examines a focused technical question in Voynich Manuscript research: whether short, compact Voynich-like ciphertext units can, in principle, preserve greater local information density than the Naibbe cipher model appears to permit.<br />
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Using a deliberately limited toy model, I illustrate how a cipher architecture incorporating positional behavior, nulls, permutation, and abbreviation could encode more plaintext information while retaining compact ciphertext forms.<br />
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The paper does not claim a decipherment of the Voynich Manuscript. Its purpose is narrower: to clarify what conclusions can—and cannot—be drawn from the Naibbe model regarding the possible information density of alternative Voynich-like cipher systems.</blockquote>
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>Technical rebuttal: semantic density and the “Naibbe” verbosity constraint." Cryptologia, ahead-of-print(ahead-of-print), pp. 1–2</blockquote>
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Delgado also wrote at You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view. about the paper:<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>I’m pleased to share that my paper, “Technical Rebuttal: Semantic Density and the ‘Naibbe’ Verbosity Constraint,” has been accepted for publication in Cryptologia and is now in production with Taylor &amp; Francis.<br />
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The paper examines a focused technical question in Voynich Manuscript research: whether short, compact Voynich-like ciphertext units can, in principle, preserve greater local information density than the Naibbe cipher model appears to permit.<br />
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Using a deliberately limited toy model, I illustrate how a cipher architecture incorporating positional behavior, nulls, permutation, and abbreviation could encode more plaintext information while retaining compact ciphertext forms.<br />
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The paper does not claim a decipherment of the Voynich Manuscript. Its purpose is narrower: to clarify what conclusions can—and cannot—be drawn from the Naibbe model regarding the possible information density of alternative Voynich-like cipher systems.</blockquote>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2026 18:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[A Glyph Is Not a Letter, a Token Is Not a Word, a Space Is Not a Space]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2026 18:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I haven't had a chance to read this recent (August 2026) article by Liudmila Rozanova and Alexander Temerev at all closely yet, but it looks interesting:<br />
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"A Glyph Is Not a Letter, a Token Is Not a Word, a Space Is Not a Space: What the Units of Voynichese Are Not"<br />
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"A Glyph Is Not a Letter, a Token Is Not a Word, a Space Is Not a Space: What the Units of Voynichese Are Not"<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Course at the Institute for Digital Humanities (Cologne)]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2026 08:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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The following course was offered at the Institute for Digital Humanities, University of Cologne:<br />
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The Voynich Manuscript as a Research Subject<br />
Seminar in the Summer Semester of 2026<br />
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The program ran through July 23, 2026. The results will be made available to the public.<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>IDH Wrote:</cite>Der Fokus soll dabei auf einer allgemein verständlichen Darstellung liegen, die evtl. auch verschiedene Medien zur Vermittlung der Inhalte nutzt. Ziel ist es, die Inhalte auf der Plattform You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view. der Öffentlichkeit zur Verfügung zu stellen.<br />
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The focus should be on presenting the information in a way that is accessible to everyone, possibly using various media to convey the content. The goal is to make the content available to the public on the platform You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view. .</blockquote><br />
I don't know if the course is offered annually or not, or when the “VoynichSC” website is updated. But there's already a lot of interesting material to explore there (unfortunately, in German).]]></description>
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The following course was offered at the Institute for Digital Humanities, University of Cologne:<br />
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The Voynich Manuscript as a Research Subject<br />
Seminar in the Summer Semester of 2026<br />
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The program ran through July 23, 2026. The results will be made available to the public.<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>IDH Wrote:</cite>Der Fokus soll dabei auf einer allgemein verständlichen Darstellung liegen, die evtl. auch verschiedene Medien zur Vermittlung der Inhalte nutzt. Ziel ist es, die Inhalte auf der Plattform You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view. der Öffentlichkeit zur Verfügung zu stellen.<br />
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The focus should be on presenting the information in a way that is accessible to everyone, possibly using various media to convey the content. The goal is to make the content available to the public on the platform You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view. .</blockquote><br />
I don't know if the course is offered annually or not, or when the “VoynichSC” website is updated. But there's already a lot of interesting material to explore there (unfortunately, in German).]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[The Singulion and the Sequence: A Methodological Review of Layfield and Davis 2026]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2026 08:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size">The Singulion and the Sequence: A Methodological Review of Layfield and Davis 2026</span><br />
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by Torsten Timm<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>In two recent companion papers, Layfield and Davis apply latent semantic analysis (LSA) to the Voynich Manuscript and derive two hypotheses: that the manuscript was conceived as a sequence of single-bifolium quires (“singulions”) later bound out of order, and that the intended sequence of bifolia can be recovered by maximizing textual similarity across page transitions. This review examines both hypotheses against the papers’ own published data. The empirical core of the first hypothesis, an elevated textual similarity within physical bifolia, is real and independently confirmed. The reading-order interpretation built upon it, however, is underdetermined by the data and contradicted by the authors’ own explanation of the herbal section. The second hypothesis rests on the premise that the intended order of a meaningful text maximizes lexical similarity between adjacent pages. This premise is refuted by the authors’ own calibration manuscripts, and the resequencing experiment lacks two controls that would make its reported improvements interpretable: a permutation null distribution and a calibration on deliberately shuffled known text. A similarity-based resequencing of the manuscript is nevertheless methodologically sound under one specific model of the text, namely that page-to-page similarity reflects proximity of production rather than continuity of meaning. Three concrete experiments, each executable with the authors’ existing pipeline, would discriminate between the competing interpretations.</blockquote>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size">The Singulion and the Sequence: A Methodological Review of Layfield and Davis 2026</span><br />
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by Torsten Timm<br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite>In two recent companion papers, Layfield and Davis apply latent semantic analysis (LSA) to the Voynich Manuscript and derive two hypotheses: that the manuscript was conceived as a sequence of single-bifolium quires (“singulions”) later bound out of order, and that the intended sequence of bifolia can be recovered by maximizing textual similarity across page transitions. This review examines both hypotheses against the papers’ own published data. The empirical core of the first hypothesis, an elevated textual similarity within physical bifolia, is real and independently confirmed. The reading-order interpretation built upon it, however, is underdetermined by the data and contradicted by the authors’ own explanation of the herbal section. The second hypothesis rests on the premise that the intended order of a meaningful text maximizes lexical similarity between adjacent pages. This premise is refuted by the authors’ own calibration manuscripts, and the resequencing experiment lacks two controls that would make its reported improvements interpretable: a permutation null distribution and a calibration on deliberately shuffled known text. A similarity-based resequencing of the manuscript is nevertheless methodologically sound under one specific model of the text, namely that page-to-page similarity reflects proximity of production rather than continuity of meaning. Three concrete experiments, each executable with the authors’ existing pipeline, would discriminate between the competing interpretations.</blockquote>
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			<title><![CDATA[[Article]:  New article by Layfield & Davis]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2026 12:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I am pleased to announce the 2nd article by Layfield &amp; Davis addressing the singulion structure of the Voynich Manuscript.<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I am pleased to announce the 2nd article by Layfield &amp; Davis addressing the singulion structure of the Voynich Manuscript.<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Notes on Four Sources Cited by Layfield and Davis  (2026)]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2026 13:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size">Notes on Four Sources Cited in "The Application of Latent Semantic Analysis to the Voynich Manuscript'' by Layfield and Davis (2026)</span><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Layfield and Davis apply Latent Semantic Analysis to the Voynich Manuscript and engage with a substantial prior literature on the manuscript's two Currier languages, A and B. This note documents four places where the paper's characterization of cited sources does not match what those sources say. In one case, the cited classifications differ from the citing paper's representation of them, and the cited author's disclaimers about the labels are not carried into the citing paper. In another, the cited paper's terminology is attributed from a different paper, and the cited paper's own contribution on the same question is not represented. In a third, the cited paper does not address the topic of the citation. In the fourth, the cited paper draws the opposite conclusion from the one it is cited to support. Each can be verified directly by readers consulting the cited works.</span></span></blockquote>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size">Notes on Four Sources Cited in "The Application of Latent Semantic Analysis to the Voynich Manuscript'' by Layfield and Davis (2026)</span><br />
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<blockquote class="mycode_quote"><cite>Quote:</cite><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-family: Helvetica, 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">Layfield and Davis apply Latent Semantic Analysis to the Voynich Manuscript and engage with a substantial prior literature on the manuscript's two Currier languages, A and B. This note documents four places where the paper's characterization of cited sources does not match what those sources say. In one case, the cited classifications differ from the citing paper's representation of them, and the cited author's disclaimers about the labels are not carried into the citing paper. In another, the cited paper's terminology is attributed from a different paper, and the cited paper's own contribution on the same question is not represented. In a third, the cited paper does not address the topic of the citation. In the fourth, the cited paper draws the opposite conclusion from the one it is cited to support. Each can be verified directly by readers consulting the cited works.</span></span></blockquote>
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			<title><![CDATA[Visual Elements of Plato within the Voynich]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2026 05:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=profile&uid=2431">SherriMM</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi all, <br />
I am excited to share my latest blog post, You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view., which shows a few quick examples of connections I've noticed between Plato's <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Timaeus </span>and mainly the biological section of the VM (in order, too!).<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
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I am very curious to know if there is other research pertaining to this or if this has been discussed at length already? Quick searches of this forum turned up little, though others have brought up a few related topics, like the nymphs as souls (which I connect to Timaeus 41D-42B). <br />
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I attached an example of one of my favorite connections, between an image on Folio 80r and a quote from Timaeus 45E. There are about seven or eight more in my post.<br />
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Thanks all,  <br />
Sherri<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi all, <br />
I am excited to share my latest blog post, You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view., which shows a few quick examples of connections I've noticed between Plato's <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Timaeus </span>and mainly the biological section of the VM (in order, too!).<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"> </span><br />
<br />
I am very curious to know if there is other research pertaining to this or if this has been discussed at length already? Quick searches of this forum turned up little, though others have brought up a few related topics, like the nymphs as souls (which I connect to Timaeus 41D-42B). <br />
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I attached an example of one of my favorite connections, between an image on Folio 80r and a quote from Timaeus 45E. There are about seven or eight more in my post.<br />
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Thanks all,  <br />
Sherri<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[New Article by Layfield and Davis]]></title>
			<link>https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-5751.html</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2026 15:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I am thrilled to announce the publication of the first of two articles by myself and Colin Layfield (Computer Science, Univ. of Malta) about the application of Latent Semantic Analysis to the Voynich Manuscript! <br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Stars in the recipe section]]></title>
			<link>https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-5733.html</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2026 14:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[In the recipe section, I annotated the stars showing a tail and the stars without a tail.<br />
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I then trained a simple statistical model to predict whether a paragraph maps to a “tail” star using only internal text features (no external information, no hand labeling tricks).<br />
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The model correctly identifies tail paragraphs about 86% of the time (balanced accuracy), which is far above chance (50%).<br />
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(I also ran permutation tests where we randomly reshuffled the data within each folio, preserving structure but destroying signal. In those tests, performance dropped to about 52%, which is basically chance. This suggests the model is not just exploiting simple artifacts like folio grouping or class imbalance.)<br />
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Is anyone aware of similar studies? I'd be interested to know if star morphometrics correlate to textual contents.<br />
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Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[In the recipe section, I annotated the stars showing a tail and the stars without a tail.<br />
<br />
I then trained a simple statistical model to predict whether a paragraph maps to a “tail” star using only internal text features (no external information, no hand labeling tricks).<br />
<br />
The model correctly identifies tail paragraphs about 86% of the time (balanced accuracy), which is far above chance (50%).<br />
<br />
(I also ran permutation tests where we randomly reshuffled the data within each folio, preserving structure but destroying signal. In those tests, performance dropped to about 52%, which is basically chance. This suggests the model is not just exploiting simple artifacts like folio grouping or class imbalance.)<br />
<br />
Is anyone aware of similar studies? I'd be interested to know if star morphometrics correlate to textual contents.<br />
<br />
Thanks!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[update to Zattera's slot machine]]></title>
			<link>https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-5715.html</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2026 09:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Using switchable templates, it looks like we can improve Zattera's slot machine performance:<br />
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Metric      Before  After    Change<br />
Generated  3,110    5,524    +2,414<br />
TP types    1,226    1,680    <span style="color: #17b529;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">+454</span></span><br />
TP tokens  20,454  24,662  +4,208<br />
Precision  0.3942  0.3041  -0.0901<br />
Recall      0.1468  0.2011  +0.0543<br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">F1          0.2139  0.2421  </span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="color: #17b529;" class="mycode_color">+0.0282</span></span><br />
TokCov      0.5491  0.6620  <span style="color: #17b529;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">+0.1129</span></span><br />
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Note that we worked on the IVTFF corpus, not Zattera's homebrew Slot Alphabet. <br />
<br />
The improved grammar (F1=0.242) outperforms Zattera's grammar (F1=0.214) when both are scored on our corpus. However, Zattera reports F1=0.270 on his own filtered corpus (~5,105 types), and our grammar was F1-trained on the test corpus while his was not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Using switchable templates, it looks like we can improve Zattera's slot machine performance:<br />
<br />
<br />
Metric      Before  After    Change<br />
Generated  3,110    5,524    +2,414<br />
TP types    1,226    1,680    <span style="color: #17b529;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">+454</span></span><br />
TP tokens  20,454  24,662  +4,208<br />
Precision  0.3942  0.3041  -0.0901<br />
Recall      0.1468  0.2011  +0.0543<br />
<span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color">F1          0.2139  0.2421  </span><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"><span style="color: #17b529;" class="mycode_color">+0.0282</span></span><br />
TokCov      0.5491  0.6620  <span style="color: #17b529;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">+0.1129</span></span><br />
<br />
Note that we worked on the IVTFF corpus, not Zattera's homebrew Slot Alphabet. <br />
<br />
The improved grammar (F1=0.242) outperforms Zattera's grammar (F1=0.214) when both are scored on our corpus. However, Zattera reports F1=0.270 on his own filtered corpus (~5,105 types), and our grammar was F1-trained on the test corpus while his was not.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Upcoming lecture and article]]></title>
			<link>https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-5709.html</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 13:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=profile&uid=1405">LisaFaginDavis</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[If you're going to be at next week's You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view. at Western Michigan University (Kalamazoo, MI), I'll be presenting some of the work Colin and I have done applying Latent Semantic Analytics to the VMS in a virtual session on Thursday at 1:30 PM Eastern: "Resequencing the Voynich Manuscript: Linguistic, Paleographic, and Material Evidence" (Session 96). Abstract: "Combining material evidence with novel linguistic analytics undertaken in collaboration with You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view., You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view. and others, this paper will present a radical and potentially game-changing hypothesis about the original structure of the Voynich Manuscript." The session will be recorded for ICMS registrants.<br />
<br />
In other news, the first of two articles on this topic by Colin and myself will be published online by <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Digital Humanities Quarterly</span> later this week. I'll post the link once it's available.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[If you're going to be at next week's You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view. at Western Michigan University (Kalamazoo, MI), I'll be presenting some of the work Colin and I have done applying Latent Semantic Analytics to the VMS in a virtual session on Thursday at 1:30 PM Eastern: "Resequencing the Voynich Manuscript: Linguistic, Paleographic, and Material Evidence" (Session 96). Abstract: "Combining material evidence with novel linguistic analytics undertaken in collaboration with You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view., You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view. and others, this paper will present a radical and potentially game-changing hypothesis about the original structure of the Voynich Manuscript." The session will be recorded for ICMS registrants.<br />
<br />
In other news, the first of two articles on this topic by Colin and myself will be published online by <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Digital Humanities Quarterly</span> later this week. I'll post the link once it's available.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Generative and Predictive Modeling Confirms Currier's A/B Distinction]]></title>
			<link>https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-5698.html</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 07:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Dear all,<br />
<br />
In this new paper (You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view.), companion to the testable signatures paper we recently shared on this forum, we test whether Currier's idea of two distinct "languages" (A and B) in the Voynich manuscript holds up under modern statistical scrutiny. We do this in two complementary ways, using character-pair ratios (like how often 'd' appears versus 'l' on a given page):<br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li>First, a generative (unsupervised) model looks at the raw character counts with no knowledge of Currier's labels and asks: how many distinct groups does the data itself support? It independently selects two groups and assigns pages in a way that substantially overlaps with Currier's A/B split.<br />
</li>
</ul>
<ul class="mycode_list"><li>Second, and perhaps more importantly, a predictive model tests whether knowing a page's A/B label actually lets you forecast its character statistics on unseen pages. The result: it predicts held-out page labels at 89.2% accuracy in character-pair ratios on text the model has never seen.<br />
</li>
</ul>
<br />
The A/B distinction is not just a pattern Currier saw: a model rediscovers it blind, and it survives predictive cross-validation.<br />
<br />
The A/B label is the dominant axis of variation, but it only explains about 29% of inter-page variance. There's a lot of structure left to account for!<br />
<br />
The dataset and methodology are going to be disclosed in two steps: first to a closed group of specialists, then made generally available later on this year.<br />
<br />
I hope you'll enjoy the reading]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Dear all,<br />
<br />
In this new paper (You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view.), companion to the testable signatures paper we recently shared on this forum, we test whether Currier's idea of two distinct "languages" (A and B) in the Voynich manuscript holds up under modern statistical scrutiny. We do this in two complementary ways, using character-pair ratios (like how often 'd' appears versus 'l' on a given page):<br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li>First, a generative (unsupervised) model looks at the raw character counts with no knowledge of Currier's labels and asks: how many distinct groups does the data itself support? It independently selects two groups and assigns pages in a way that substantially overlaps with Currier's A/B split.<br />
</li>
</ul>
<ul class="mycode_list"><li>Second, and perhaps more importantly, a predictive model tests whether knowing a page's A/B label actually lets you forecast its character statistics on unseen pages. The result: it predicts held-out page labels at 89.2% accuracy in character-pair ratios on text the model has never seen.<br />
</li>
</ul>
<br />
The A/B distinction is not just a pattern Currier saw: a model rediscovers it blind, and it survives predictive cross-validation.<br />
<br />
The A/B label is the dominant axis of variation, but it only explains about 29% of inter-page variance. There's a lot of structure left to account for!<br />
<br />
The dataset and methodology are going to be disclosed in two steps: first to a closed group of specialists, then made generally available later on this year.<br />
<br />
I hope you'll enjoy the reading]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Testable signatures on VMS structure]]></title>
			<link>https://www.voynich.ninja/thread-5665.html</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 07:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Last year, M. Greshko's Naibbe cipher marked a turning point in VMS research. Thanks to his work, and of Zattera's, we are now in a position to make testable criteria about key features a script simulator (or a script generator) like Naibbe must meet to replicate the behavior of the Voynich structure.<br />
<br />
This new paper explores and proposes 4 such criteria: You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view.<br />
<br />
Best regards]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Last year, M. Greshko's Naibbe cipher marked a turning point in VMS research. Thanks to his work, and of Zattera's, we are now in a position to make testable criteria about key features a script simulator (or a script generator) like Naibbe must meet to replicate the behavior of the Voynich structure.<br />
<br />
This new paper explores and proposes 4 such criteria: You are not allowed to view links. <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=register">Register</a> or <a href="https://www.voynich.ninja/member.php?action=login">Login</a> to view.<br />
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Best regards]]></content:encoded>
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