Quote:The letter of Johannes Marcus Marci to Athanasius Kircher (1665)
Reverend Lord Father in Christ
This book was left to me by a close friend in his will and ever since I first owned it I have destined it for you my dearest Athanasius, persuaded as I am that it can be read by none if not by you.
The then possessor of the book once sent you letters seeking your judgment about a part of it which he wrote down and sent to you, being convinced that the rest of it could be read by you. He refused to send the actual book and put untiring work into its decipherment. as will be seen from his attempts now sent to you under the same cover. He did not give up this hope until he reached the end of his life. But in fact his work was in vain, as such riddles only obey their very own Kircher. So now please accept what was long owed to you as some small token of my affection for you, and break through its bars with your habitual ease.
Doctor Raphael, the Czech language tutor of King Ferdinand III as they both then were, once told me that the said book belonged to Emperor Rudolph and that he presented 600 ducats to the messenger who brought him the book. He, Raphael, thought that the author was Roger Bacon the Englishman. I suspend my judgement on the matter.
You be the judge of what we should think about it. I commend myself to your favour and grace and I remain
At the service of your Reverence.
Prague 19 August 1665

(16-09-2016, 10:28 AM)stellar Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I decided to run a text analysis of the Marci Letter which was supposedly sent to Kircher.  I found anomalies with the Capital, "R" straight out and it was not consistent, in fact 1 R looked like a voynich, "e".  The spacing of the words and the upward momentum to leveling off is seen in the Voynich Manuscript.  The dot in the letter, "i" tilts to the right like his signature.

The letter reads in English

Quote:The letter of Johannes Marcus Marci to Athanasius Kircher (1665)
Reverend Lord Father in Christ
This book was left to me by a close friend in his will and ever since I first owned it I have destined it for you my dearest Athanasius, persuaded as I am that it can be read by none if not by you.
The then possessor of the book once sent you letters seeking your judgment about a part of it which he wrote down and sent to you, being convinced that the rest of it could be read by you. He refused to send the actual book and put untiring work into its decipherment. as will be seen from his attempts now sent to you under the same cover. He did not give up this hope until he reached the end of his life. But in fact his work was in vain, as such riddles only obey their very own Kircher. So now please accept what was long owed to you as some small token of my affection for you, and break through its bars with your habitual ease.
Doctor Raphael, the Czech language tutor of King Ferdinand III as they both then were, once told me that the said book belonged to Emperor Rudolph and that he presented 600 ducats to the messenger who brought him the book. He, Raphael, thought that the author was Roger Bacon the Englishman. I suspend my judgement on the matter.
You be the judge of what we should think about it. I commend myself to your favour and grace and I remain
At the service of your Reverence.
Prague 19 August 1665

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(17-09-2016, 01:05 AM)-JKP- Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

(16-09-2016, 10:28 AM)stellar Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I decided to run a text analysis of the Marci Letter which was supposedly sent to Kircher.  I found anomalies with the Capital, "R" straight out and it was not consistent, in fact 1 R looked like a voynich, "e".  The spacing of the words and the upward momentum to leveling off is seen in the Voynich Manuscript.  The dot in the letter, "i" tilts to the right like his signature.

The letter reads in English

Quote:The letter of Johannes Marcus Marci to Athanasius Kircher (1665)
Reverend Lord Father in Christ
This book was left to me by a close friend in his will and ever since I first owned it I have destined it for you my dearest Athanasius, persuaded as I am that it can be read by none if not by you.
The then possessor of the book once sent you letters seeking your judgment about a part of it which he wrote down and sent to you, being convinced that the rest of it could be read by you. He refused to send the actual book and put untiring work into its decipherment. as will be seen from his attempts now sent to you under the same cover. He did not give up this hope until he reached the end of his life. But in fact his work was in vain, as such riddles only obey their very own Kircher. So now please accept what was long owed to you as some small token of my affection for you, and break through its bars with your habitual ease.
Doctor Raphael, the Czech language tutor of King Ferdinand III as they both then were, once told me that the said book belonged to Emperor Rudolph and that he presented 600 ducats to the messenger who brought him the book. He, Raphael, thought that the author was Roger Bacon the Englishman. I suspend my judgement on the matter.
You be the judge of what we should think about it. I commend myself to your favour and grace and I remain
At the service of your Reverence.
Prague 19 August 1665

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You pick out one character in a letter (the capital R) and relate the shape to a VMS glyph (EVA-l) to suggest a similarity in handwriting?

Good research is not done that way. Pick out all the related shapes (all the capital Rs) and a number of related shapes in the VM and you will get a clearer, more objective picture of whether the two character styles are related, and I am doubtful that they are. The resemblance is very superficial.

(17-09-2016, 06:57 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The "marci letter" was not written by Marci himself, but by a scribe.
The same scribe who wrote You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.  (you may need to click on the image to expand).

This letter is preserved in the Kircher correspondence and it is of course excluded that Wilfrid Voynich wrote it.

Quote:6: The “Signature” & Date: It has long been known that the “signature” of Marcus Marci is not by him, as it seems to be different on his other, earlier letters. This has been explained by the fact that Marci was very old, and ill at this point, and some scribe wrote and signed the letter for him. But interesting to me is the almost pantographic ability of this scribe…

Quote:Stellar, I'm almost about to do a face-palm on your posts.

(17-09-2016, 12:39 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Quote:Stellar, I'm almost about to do a face-palm on your posts.

No sarcastic comments please.