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Intentionality of the Zodiac Construction - Printable Version +- The Voynich Ninja (https://www.voynich.ninja) +-- Forum: Voynich Research (https://www.voynich.ninja/forum-27.html) +--- Forum: Analysis of the text (https://www.voynich.ninja/forum-41.html) +--- Thread: Intentionality of the Zodiac Construction (/thread-5638.html) |
Intentionality of the Zodiac Construction - rikforto - 18-04-2026 Ladies, gentlemen, and unidentified beasts! For another thread, it became of interest for me to count the number of words in the Zodiac counter clockwise texts. The ALL CAPS signs are the sum of the 2 halves. Folio Sign Word Count TAURUS 159 AIRES 132 f72r3 Cancer 122 f70v2 Pisces 104 f72v3 Leo 85 f72r1 Taurus 81 f72r2 Gemini 79 f71v Taurus 78 f72v2 Virgo 77 f71r Aires 72 f72v1 Libra 72 f73r Scorpio 66 f73v Sagittarius 66 f70v1 Aires 60 Folio Sign Character* Count TAURUS 947 AIRES 836 f72r3 Cancer 738 f70v2 Pisces 603 f72v3 Leo 539 f72r1 Taurus 493 f72v2 Virgo 491 f72r2 Gemini 461 f72v1 Libra 459 f71v Taurus 454 f71r Aires 442 f73r Scorpio 432 f73v Sagittarius 416 f70v1 Aires 394 *Includes the space as a character, counting the end of each of the three lines as a space. I think the finding here is interesting if we're thinking about the intentionality of constructing the Zodiac pages. If we assume---and this may not be warranted on numerous grounds---that they were created with the text in mind, we would predict that the largest ones are the ones that got split. We see this! And we see the crowded ones that didn't get split. We also see one of the splits appearing at the bottom of the distribution, and the second half of each split appearing smaller. Countervailing that, f72r1, f71v, and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. are all very typical, and f70v1 isn't wildly smaller than most of its peers. The size of the actual zodiacs seems to cluster around 440 +/- 55 characters, with three then being above that bound. This is closer to, but not exactly what I'd expect if the text were filling the space provided. To commit to saying the text were filling the space I'd have to say they made Cancer and Pisces more crowded, either by accident or to throw us off, but I also don't see signs they were trying to jam text in. Given the small set and the fact neither word length nor character length are exactly standard measurements, and the fact that circles vary a bit, there's quickly a limit to what statistics can tell us, and I'm not terribly surprised to get a fuzzy result. And so my question, numbers or features of the page, what do people see here? Did the words fill the circles until they were full or were the circles crafted as containers for predetermined words? For my part, the fact the spaces are reasonably consistent within a diagram but less so between them gives me the sense I'm looking at something planned to hold the text, but it's a subtle effect and my bias anyway. RE: Intentionality of the Zodiac Construction - Addsamuels - 17-05-2026 I added the names under the Zodiac signs on my chart You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Interestingly, the three water signs : Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces are located together. Aries is split upon PCA component 2 measure, but Taurus is seemingly very similar. I then decided to review the Aries and Taurus' folios, for it may be profitable. The two star signs have two concentric rings of stars (with nymphs) in a [5,10] formation on all four of the "pages". Kind regards, RE: Intentionality of the Zodiac Construction - Dunsel - 17-05-2026 And something else for you to consider. I believe, according to Lisa Fagan Davis, all of those pages were created by scribe 4. Not the most prolific scribe of the bunch. RE: Intentionality of the Zodiac Construction - R. Sale - 18-05-2026 The 'inhabitants' of the medallions for the first five houses of the VMs Zodiac sequence are paired. This introduces two memes: the number five and the concept of pairing. Are you familiar with medieval Heraldry? RE: Intentionality of the Zodiac Construction - Addsamuels - 18-05-2026 ![]() Please see this construction. The red trapezoid is Quire 10 ("non-Zodiac") which fits nicely within the zodiacs. The green line is part of Quire 9, the rest, is in bottom left corner (and off image). Kind regards, Alex |