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Intentionality of the Zodiac Construction - rikforto - 18-04-2026

Ladies, gentlemen, and unidentified beasts! For another thread, it became of interest for me to count the number of words in the Zodiac counter clockwise texts. The ALL CAPS signs are the sum of the 2 halves. 

Folio   Sign           Word Count
          TAURUS     159
          AIRES        132
f72r3   Cancer       122
f70v2  Pisces         104
f72v3  Leo            85
f72r1   Taurus       81
f72r2   Gemini      79
f71v    Taurus       78
f72v2  Virgo         77
f71r     Aires         72
f72v1  Libra         72
f73r    Scorpio      66
f73v   Sagittarius  66
f70v1  Aires         60


Folio Sign Character* Count
          TAURUS     947
           AIRES       836
f72r3   Cancer      738
f70v2   Pisces       603
f72v3   Leo           539
f72r1   Taurus       493
f72v2   Virgo         491
f72r2   Gemini       461
f72v1   Libra         459
f71v    Taurus       454
f71r     Aires         442
f73r     Scorpio      432
f73v    Sagittarius  416
f70v1   Aires         394

*Includes the space as a character, counting the end of each of the three lines as a space.



I think the finding here is interesting if we're thinking about the intentionality of constructing the Zodiac pages. If we assume---and this may not be warranted on numerous grounds---that they were created with the text in mind, we would predict that the largest ones are the ones that got split. We see this! And we see the crowded ones that didn't get split. We also see one of the splits appearing at the bottom of the distribution, and the second half of each split appearing smaller.

Countervailing that, f72r1, f71v, and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. are all very typical, and f70v1 isn't wildly smaller than most of its peers. The size of the actual zodiacs seems to cluster around 440 +/- 55 characters, with three then being above that bound. This is closer to, but not exactly what I'd expect if the text were filling the space provided. To commit to saying the text were filling the space I'd have to say they made Cancer and Pisces more crowded, either by accident or to throw us off, but I also don't see signs they were trying to jam text in.

Given the small set and the fact neither word length nor character length are exactly standard measurements, and the fact that circles vary a bit, there's quickly a limit to what statistics can tell us, and I'm not terribly surprised to get a fuzzy result.

And so my question, numbers or features of the page, what do people see here? Did the words fill the circles until they were full or were the circles crafted as containers for predetermined words? For my part, the fact the spaces are reasonably consistent within a diagram but less so between them gives me the sense I'm looking at something planned to hold the text, but it's a subtle effect and my bias anyway.


RE: Intentionality of the Zodiac Construction - Addsamuels - 17-05-2026

I added the names under the Zodiac signs on my chart You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Interestingly, the three water signs : Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces are located together. Aries is split upon PCA component 2 measure, but Taurus is seemingly very similar.

I then decided to review the Aries and Taurus' folios, for it may be profitable.
The two star signs have two concentric rings of stars (with nymphs) in a [5,10] formation on all four of the "pages".

Kind regards,


RE: Intentionality of the Zodiac Construction - Dunsel - 17-05-2026

And something else for you to consider.  I believe, according to Lisa Fagan Davis, all of those pages were created by scribe 4.  Not the most prolific scribe of the bunch.


RE: Intentionality of the Zodiac Construction - R. Sale - 18-05-2026

The 'inhabitants' of the medallions for the first five houses of the VMs Zodiac sequence are paired. This introduces two memes: the number five and the concept of pairing.

Are you familiar with medieval Heraldry?


RE: Intentionality of the Zodiac Construction - Addsamuels - 18-05-2026

[Image: EISQPCkP_o.png]
Please see this construction.
The red trapezoid is Quire 10 ("non-Zodiac") which fits nicely within the zodiacs.
The green line is part of Quire 9, the rest, is in bottom left corner (and off image).
Kind regards,
Alex