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word structures and systems 2.0 - Petrasti - 31-01-2026
In my previous thread (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.) I tried to explain which structures I recognize as repetitions in the manuscript. It's actually a somewhat more complex approach; I've put the words, along with a few selected particles or prefixes, into a table to illustrate this more clearly. There are two recurring patterns. The first involves the changing particles before words (prefixes); the second shows that the gallow signs before or inside the "ch" sound doesn't belong to the word itself (as still in the first prefix system mentioned). Maybe the table will help clarify the structure. However, both systems belong together, because the system of prefixes makes the repeating of prefixes visible, and the system of gallows signs further expands the system of prefixes. At the end of the thread, I'll add a language option. My aim here isn't to prove the existence of a language, but rather to demonstrate a repeating system. The language example is simply meant to show that there are languages that behave according to the belwo mentioned system (not for the structure of complete manuscript)
the general system of prefixes:
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the system of the gellow signs before and between ch
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I'll give you an example from Aramaic just as a brief aside. (I'm not convinced by it myself) but it illustrates the possibility.
(the aramaic translation and grammar is made by AL, errores included)
voynich word: char - EVA translation: chal Aramaic: chal = eat!
ychal = achal = he ate
ochal = ochal = he eats (eating)
qochal = kochal = he ist eating (Present continuous). The prefix "K-" or "Ko-" is the standard marker for the present tense
tchal = tchal = you eat / she eat
chchal = nchal =we eat
lchal = lchal = to eat
pchal = pchal = he will eat
chaly = chala = she ate
lchal = lchal = to eat
ty l-ochal = ta lchal = come to eat
odain o ochal = odan u-ochal = we made the food
RE: word structures and systems 2.0 - dashstofsk - 01-02-2026
Your idea about the e extension to ch and c+h words is interesting. But I would have wanted to see frequencies of such extensions. I have generated some for you. It does seem to demonstrate a repeating system. But I am not convinced that it demonstrates the presence of a known language.
RE: word structures and systems 2.0 - Petrasti - 01-02-2026
The first question is: Does the "word system" consist of prefixes? That's what I actually wanted to show with the tables. If so, what are prefixes and what is the base word?
Let's take the second part, where we see the gallow signs before or within the "ch" sound.
Do you think it's the same base word and the gallow signs are particles? Or is it a new word each time, and the particles aren't particles but rather part of the word itself? The prefix/particle "qo-" tells us that we're dealing with a prefix or particle that precedes the actual word. It would be convenient if we could assume that "qo-" precedes the base word. However, another particle often follows the "qo-", so we see a "qo-o-" base word or a "qo-t-" base word. I consider the system to be a prefix-base-suffix system.
RE: word structures and systems 2.0 - dashstofsk - 01-02-2026
(01-02-2026, 05:12 PM)Petrasti Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.a prefix-base-suffix system
I believe there is truth in what you say. However in my opinion it doesn't point to the VMS being in a known language.
A prefix-base-suffix structure for gallows words is something that I have fathomed some time ago [ You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. ]. Prefixes and suffices seem to be independent and this suggests these words were constructed to some systematic method.
The majority of non-gallows words seem to have a structure of starting as a e series string followed by an i series string. I mentioned something of this in an earlier post [ You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. ]. Again, this suggests artificiality.
Non-gallows words ( language A )