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A system of designation - R. Sale - 15-03-2016
In order to communicate covertly, it is necessary to use some sort of hidden system. In order to communicate clearly the system itself needs to be rigid and unambiguous. Too many linguistic interpretations have problems with ambiguity.
A linguistic translation of VMs symbols in the common suffix transcribed as EVA -ody involves finding a linguistic equivalent for the three symbols, but with no apparent clues to provide a starting point other than just being an apparent suffix.
The White Aries Mechanism is a text delivery system. The patterned markers in the two circular bands of text of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. clearly function as a workable method to designate specific segments of text. The whole of the heraldic identification is only a demonstration of what a *very* long way the author was willing to go in order to emphasize the significance of these patterned markers.
A text designation system was constructed in the White Aries illustration to deliver a specific segment of text, the Golden Key. But how to read it??
Not through an alphabetic translation system, it seems, but through something slightly different. A system intended to specify letters. A letter designation system. Take the suffix -ody and turn it into numbers according to the positions in the Seventeen Symbol Sequence from VMs f57v. The Eva symbols o, d, y would convert to 1, 3, 15. What seems to be missing in that numerical sequence? To me, the number 5 is implied, as in 1, 3, (5), 15. A sequence 1, 2, 7 might imply 14. The symbols are used repeatedly, according to fixed rules, but they produce different results depending on the sequence. The author then is free to use the individual sequences to create an apparent structure: prefix, root, suffix.
The big question, of course, is what do the the implied numbers map to? Does it have to go back through the Seventeen Symbol Sequence and the come out in Greek? That would be a beast!!!! If the author had the same mastery of languages as we might presume from the heraldic demonstrations, then the doors are wide open.
Getting into the quicksand has been fairly easy, so far. Getting out may be more difficult. I could be sitting here for a while. Any suggestions?
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RE: A system of designation - crezac - 13-04-2016
Getting into the quicksand is easiest to do when you wade right in and don't watch where your going. It's even easier if you're walking on a marked path you assume is safe because everyone else is walking it too. (They aren't all shorter than you, some of them have just been in the quicksand longer.) You path is made of assumptions and each one needs to be tested before you make the next one if you don't want to get in over your head.
Examine even your most basic assumptions. "In order to communicate covertly, it is necessary to use some sort of hidden system. In order to communicate clearly the system itself needs to be rigid and unambiguous. Too many linguistic interpretations have problems with ambiguity."
In order to communicate covertly you only need to keep the message hidden. Passing notes in school is an example of this. You only need a system when you don't trust the people passing the notes of they might be intercepted by a hostile entity. And even then the system is only hidden from the hostile entity, the recipient of the message needs to be able to decode it.
In order to communicate clearly the system needs to take your definition of clearly into account. Prior to standardized spelling Shakespeare's name had a number of spellings, but anyone familiar with his works understood the reference when reading his name. You can have ambiguity and variation in encoding without a loss of semantic clarity. Whether you are looking for a linguistic interpretation or not the problem is not ambiguity. The problem is a lack of context. You may be able to interpret something without context, even if all you have is a string of characters. In order to make the correct interpretation reliably you need context.
If you want out of the quicksand back up and look for a different path.