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Foil Q9f67r1- Stations of the Moon - BessAgritianin - 09-02-2025

Hello Everybody,
Here I include a link to SOME readings made  on foil  Q967r1.
Please, excuse me for the not very well organized web page, but I am a retired person who does it for fun and no way  competition in researcher's excellence.
The forward file contains some of my findings about the alphabet.

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For feed back and critics I am always open. 
Enjoy!

RE: Foil Q9f67r1- Stations of the Moon - ReneZ - 09-02-2025

While I don't agree with your proposed solutions, I think it is very good that you have started a web page and present your ideas there.

RE: Foil Q9f67r1- Stations of the Moon - BessAgritianin - 10-02-2025

(09-02-2025, 12:13 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.While I don't agree with your proposed solutions, I think it is very good that you have started a web page and present your ideas there.
While you do not justify your disagreement with some proofs of your findings, which renounce my theory - how can you disagree?
Even You cannot agree with it, because you do not have ground for it too.

RE: Foil Q9f67r1- Stations of the Moon - ReneZ - 10-02-2025

(10-02-2025, 03:43 AM)BessAgritianin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.While you do not justify your disagreement with some proofs of your findings, which renounce my theory

Of course I have justified my reasons. Many times. And so have several other people.

The short summary of the main part of this justification is:

Statistics clearly prove that your method cannot work. Simple substitution even with plenty of freedom cannot convert Voynich text to any plain langauge or vice versa.

There is more but that does not matter.

If this was not convincing to you in the past, then it will not be convincing now or in the future, so I will not repeat this any more after this.

RE: Foil Q9f67r1- Stations of the Moon - BessAgritianin - 10-02-2025

(10-02-2025, 07:04 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(10-02-2025, 03:43 AM)BessAgritianin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.While you do not justify your disagreement with some proofs of your findings, which renounce my theory

Of course I have justified my reasons. Many times. And so have several other people.

The short summary of the main part of this justification is:

Statistics clearly prove that your method cannot work. Simple substitution even with plenty of freedom cannot convert Voynich text to any plain langauge or vice versa.

There is more but that does not matter.

If this was not convincing to you in the past, then it will not be convincing now or in the future, so I will not repeat this any more after this.

Citation:
"There are lies, damned lies, and statistics."
Black Belt Vessy

RE: Foil Q9f67r1- Stations of the Moon - Scarecrow - 10-02-2025

Dismissing other persons work with some futile citation is not a great way to go ahead. Facts come in many forms. VMS is multidisciplinary teamwork, all sincere contributions demand respect.

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RE: Foil Q9f67r1- Stations of the Moon - oshfdk - 10-02-2025

(09-02-2025, 07:42 AM)BessAgritianin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The forward file contains some of my findings about the alphabet.

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The transcription seems to assign the same readings to different symbols and at the same time maps the same symbol to different readings. I've listed a few examples on the right in the image below.

   

RE: Foil Q9f67r1- Stations of the Moon - oshfdk - 10-02-2025

(10-02-2025, 09:21 AM)BessAgritianin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Citation:
"There are lies, damned lies, and statistics."

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge."

RE: Foil Q9f67r1- Stations of the Moon - Koen G - 10-02-2025

(10-02-2025, 05:41 PM)oshfdk Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view."The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge."

This should be the official motto of Voynich research.

RE: Foil Q9f67r1- Stations of the Moon - R. Sale - 10-02-2025

And it has been said before that the intention of the VMs was to create the "Illusion of Knowledge" in an era of astrology and alchemy, where knowledge was an illusion. Nothing prevents factual information from being used in the creation of that illusion.