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Medieval red, white & blue - R. Sale - 05-10-2021
Blue, red and "white" are used with strong effect in the VMs cosmic illustrations. Does this particular combination of colors show up in any other aspects of medieval investigation? In heraldry, and particularly in the earlier and more simplified versions of heraldry that is more appropriate to the time before c. 1450, many two-tincture insignias are still in use and red, blue and white combinations are not that common over all, even if vair is considered as white and blue.
Recently, two investigations involving heraldry with red, white, blue and gold tinctures have occurred regarding the counts of Gorizia [Gorz with an umlaut, etc.] and Celje > Cilli > Zylly with umlauts. Does the particular color combination indicate any connection of these historical locations with the VMs? And where else might the same, primary combination of colors occur?
Blue, red and white are used in the arms of Portugal. Does Portugal connect to the Order of the Golden Fleece? Is there a list of examples for the VMs having connections with the number 'five'?
RE: Medieval red, white & blue - R. Sale - 15-10-2021
The Portuguese connection to the Order of the Golden Fleece is made obvious in that the third wife of Philip the Good, Duke of Burgundy, was Isabella of Portugal, married in 1430.
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Anyone who knows the Portuguese heraldic insignia of the relevant era (1385-1481), has probably seen the unusual pattern and knows the story behind its origins.
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reveal a standardized and internationalized heraldic knowledge is present at the time of VMs C-14 dating. The coverage ranges from Aragon to Austria, and from Poland to Portugal; from Sweden to Savoy to Sicily and Jerusalem and points in between. There is even a Portuguese herald's interpretation of the Council of Constance. [Manchester, John Rylands, Latin MS 28]
In addition to the heraldic history, there are some hypotheses as well, such as the heraldic insignias of the Nine Worthies. The interesting pattern description is that these nine represent a triad of triads. And this also fits in with the Portuguese 'Quinas' from the article above. which mentions the five wounds of Christ and also the quincunx. The pattern is a pentad of pentads. The first interpretation reveals quite a low threshold of acceptance at a time when five of anything could be interpreted as five of 'something else'. Still it is clear that such things did happen historically. And the quincunx has its own peculiarities, being found in the VMs 'four by seventeen' cypher sequence in position #6.
In the VMs, the first five houses of the zodiac sequence are paired by several different methods; by combination, by division, and by the union of complementary opposites. Pairing is significant because of the laws of Deuteronomy. Pairing transforms appearance into structure. Pairing subtly combines with heraldry in the patterns of the Pisces and Aries tubs. And heraldry combines with history disguised by an illusion, to hide the Fieschi popes on VMs White Aries. An insignia with a blazon; bendy, agent et azur, and a red galero - another connection to medieval red, white and blue.