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Folio start gallows - bunny - 28-05-2020
Also posted on another discussion list.
Considering almost all folios start with 1 of 4 gallows with the occasional
o thrown in front how is that explainable in terms of natural language? Do
any manuscripts or books start with only a choice of 4 letters? If not
alphabet letters could they show which "code subset" to refer to. Could it
be a 4 subset rotating code or even 4 completely different codes used?
Bunny
RE: Folio start gallows - davidjackson - 28-05-2020
Hi bunny long time no speak!
Yes it could be a rotating code.
But I personally think it's more likely to be a form of chapter marker, like a pilcrow.
RE: Folio start gallows - bunny - 28-05-2020
(28-05-2020, 05:59 PM)davidjackson Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi bunny long time no speak!
Yes it could be a rotating code.
But I personally think it's more likely to be a form of chapter marker, like a pilcrow.
Yes, a very long time, but I guess a lot of us have more time on our hands at the moment to put back into the manuscript.
The pilcrow is not a form of paragraph marker I know much about in manuscripts. Is it found in various forms within a manuscript or folio or is it just a singular form usually. If it is a pilcrow would that work when found also amongst the text with regularity?
Bunny
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RE: Folio start gallows - -JKP- - 29-05-2020
I think the first gallows in each paragraph is more similar to a pilcrow than it is to a letter.
RE: Folio start gallows - ReneZ - 29-05-2020
In a recent count I did, I found 711 paragraph starts.
Of these, 604 (85%) start with p,t,k,f:
325 * p
170 * t
77 * k
32 * f
The remaining 107 (15%) start with q, o, "introducing gallows", d, s, y, "rare character", sh, l or ch.
In that order.
One conspicuous aspect is that all intruding gallows (15) have a single leg.
RE: Folio start gallows - -JKP- - 29-05-2020
(28-05-2020, 11:51 PM)bunny Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
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The pilcrow is not a form of paragraph marker I know much about in manuscripts. Is it found in various forms within a manuscript or folio or is it just a singular form usually. If it is a pilcrow would that work when found also amongst the text with regularity?
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Yes, the medieval pilcrow/capitulum symbol was used within text with great regularity in both Greek and Latin texts. I have hundreds of examples (maybe as many as 1000 examples).
Edit, addition... I can't remember if I posted this on my blog or on the forum, but this is an example of in-text pilcrows/capitulum symbols that I posted a few years ago: