(29-08-2018, 05:14 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.One more fundamental mistake, I'm sorry to say - to interpret critique as hostility.

Let alone it's not correct to contrapose internet community to academics, since for sure nowadays many academics enjoy internet no less than other people.

Quote:Anton, what you say is right, but criticism coming from fellow academics tends to be phrased in certain ways, and what has come from the internet Voynich community certainly includes a fair amount of hostility.

Quote:I suspect that this paragraph was added precisely for the purpose of being able to put a 'hostile amateur' stamp on such comments on the book, with the aim of disqualifying these from serious discussion.

Quote:Researchers previously assumed the Voynich Codex to be a 15th century European manuscript, reinforced by carbon dating of the vellum but not the text. However, the book’s last chapter includes contrary evidence, including the previously ignored botanical and animal information, which identifies the manuscript to be of New World origin.

(30-08-2018, 12:18 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Quote:Anton, what you say is right, but criticism coming from fellow academics tends to be phrased in certain ways, and what has come from the internet Voynich community certainly includes a fair amount of hostility.

Talk in the internet can be notably harsh in general, this is an interesting phenomenon (and I'm certain it's being investigated and somehow explained by science), but it's not specific just to "Voynich" internet community in particular. They do not contrapose "hostility" of the internet to "friendliness" of academics. Instead, with this phrase, they implicitly substitute "hostility" for "profanity" and it is opposition of "enlightenment" of academia to "profanity" of the internet that blatantly rings here. I can't welcome that.

Thus, when you say that

Quote:I suspect that this paragraph was added precisely for the purpose of being able to put a 'hostile amateur' stamp on such comments on the book, with the aim of disqualifying these from serious discussion.

it's basically the same consideration of mine put in different words.

Quote:They think the artist is You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., who was physically unable to draw a line without also drawing one or two Jesuses.

(07-09-2018, 12:02 PM)Anton Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.

Quote:They think the artist is You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., who was physically unable to draw a line without also drawing one or two Jesuses.

But Juan Gerson died in 1429, how could that be (from the perspective of the New-World-story)?

Quote:In the mid-16th century a native Mexican painter, baptised Juan Gerson after the fiery medieval preacher John Gerson, created an extraordinary cycle of paintings for the Franciscan church of Tecamachalco, in what is now the state of Puebla.