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RE: What is unique or rare about the VM Zodiac signs? - ReneZ - 17-12-2022
@R.Sale, perhaps you are trying to make something fit that cannot be fitted.
As Koen has already pointed out a few times, fashion in this general era cannot be pinpointed to a specific region.
It appears as if the human cross-bow equipped sagittarius fits the general German area, but not a very limited time frame. At the same time, the clothing fits a reasonably narrow time frame, but not a narrow geographical area.
Looking at it though the very narrow viewport into this time presented by extant and publicly available illustrations in manuscripts, paintings and tapestries would allow one to easily miss the right origin.
RE: What is unique or rare about the VM Zodiac signs? - R. Sale - 17-12-2022
In my view, this is still an open investigation and an ongoing request for additional information.
I agree with the general assessment of the data regarding the crossbowman and his clothing, specifically bagpipe sleeves. Your statement: "It appears as if the human cross-bow equipped sagittarius fits the general German area, but not a very limited time frame. At the same time, the clothing fits a reasonably narrow time frame, but not a narrow geographical area."
The crossbowman suggests a geographic area, the bagpipe sleeves suggest a chronological era. Both of these are compatible with the single source C-14 interpretation. Your reference: Cod. Sang. 827.
Further investigation now turns to the VMs archer's hat. The 'potential' Italian suggestion has no date, no specific location, and no indication why a *white* sack hat or chaperon would be preferred over any other color choice. The 'potential' connection to the Cabochien revolt, is specific in both time and place, as well as to the color of the hat. I'm not saying that this solves this VMs investigation, but I am saying that this is valid historical information within the C-14 dates that further supplements other potential Valois and Burgundian possibilities.
I can show over two dozen different, medieval representations of Eleazar and the elephant. That doesn't mean that any of these artists were there to witness the event. Why should it be assumed that the VMs artist was present to witness the so-call "right origin" event??
Manuscripts, paintings and tapestries may not show the presence of "le chaperon blanc", but the historical narrative unequivocally confirms it.