RE: [Trinity] Plant identification in Trinity College MS O.2.48 Apuleii Herbarium - ReneZ - 11-05-2017
(10-05-2017, 08:53 PM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.When going over "feminine" herbs, I was able to match most to a list found here:
Pseudo-Dioscorides' "Ex Herbis Femininis" and Early Medieval Medical Botany
Author(s): John M. Riddle
Source: Journal of the History of Biology, Vol. 14, No. 1 (Spring, 1981), pp. 43-81
Published by: Springer
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I can recommend you to read the entire paper. It has valuable information on the problems of identifying herbs from old herbal illustrations.
I have done the same exercise, not only by looking at the names, but also by comparing with other manuscripts that include these two herbal traditions. I only briefly summarised it You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. .
Going by your two lists:
41v pontafilos, trifolia -> I could not match this to any herb (yet)
44v bouiantos -> same problem
46r inantes? -> this is nr. 26 Melena
46v text missing? -> the one at the top is out of sequence: 57 Delfion. The one at the bottom could be 69 Lachnis (*)
49r romoys -> this is 33 Aizos
50v loniasos -> this is 40 Ficios / hecios
53v papau? agste? frias? -> papaver agreste, this is 46 Moecon
61v gelocia -> was discussed elsewhere (gelosia / galesia) and is not part of "Ex Herbis".
Note (*): it looks like the illustration of Lachnis in Plut. 73.41.
Plants from Riddle's "feminine plant list" which I have not assigned are the following:
13. Sticas -> yes, missing
26. melena -> 46r bottom
33. aizos -> 49r bottom
40. ficios, hecios, alcidiabios -> 50v bottom
46. moecon -> 53v
69. Lachnis -> 46v bottom (perhaps)
70. Abrotonum -> missing
71. aparine, filantropos -> missing
I also did not find 68 Sion.
Once I figure out how to get data from my Excel files between spoiler tags, I will include both lists for Pseudo Apuleius and Ex Herbis.
RE: [Trinity] Plant identification in Trinity College MS O.2.48 Apuleii Herbarium - Koen G - 11-05-2017
I can't check the scans now but I wrote sion.fol 57v.
RE: [Trinity] Plant identification in Trinity College MS O.2.48 Apuleii Herbarium - -JKP- - 11-05-2017
I wish I weren't so swamped with work right now... I'm pretty sure I have information on some of these. 
RE: [Trinity] Plant identification in Trinity College MS O.2.48 Apuleii Herbarium - ReneZ - 11-05-2017
(11-05-2017, 06:33 AM)Koen Gh. Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I can't check the scans now but I wrote sion.fol 57v.
You're right, there are three herbs there and I only included the first two.
So here goes the full list, including also the two Florence Plutei manuscripts for reference.
Riddle (1981) My old Name Pl.73.41 Pl.73.16 Cambr.O.2.48
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1. Acantha leuca; hecynum Afrisa 86v 183r 39v
2. Buglossos Buglossa 87r 183v 40r ©
3. Acantus Acantum 87v 184r 40r (B)
4. Helylosfacos, Salvia Helylysfacos (=Salvia) 88r 184v 40v ©
5. Cyminum Cyminon 88v 185r 41r (T)
6. Camelleon (Camelleon) 89r 185v 40v (B)
7. Erpullos (Herpillos) 89v 186r 41r (B)
8. Camedrios (Camedeon) 90r 187r 41v ©
9. Polygonos (Poligonos) 90v 187v 42r (T)
10. Samsucon Samfucon 91r 188v 42r (B)
11. Cestros, sive … vel … Cestros 91v 189r 42v (T)
12. Aristolochia Aristolochia 92r 189v 42v (B)
13. Sticas Schycas 92v 191r
14. Adiantos; polytichos; Adiantos 93r 191v 43v (B)
15. Mandragora Mandragora 93v 193r 47r
16. Thlaspis; mia Thlaspis 94r 193v 43r
17. Sisimbrium Sifimbrion 94v (T) 194r 43v (T)
18. Celedonie Celedonia 94v (B) 194v 44r (T)
19. Camemelos Camemelos 95r 195r 44r (B)
20. Sideritis Sideritis 96r (T) 196r 45v (T)
21. Flommos Flommos 96r (B) 196v 44v
22. Lynozostis Linozostis 96v 197v 45r
23. Antirenon Antherenon 97r 198r 45v (B)
24. Britannica Britannica 97v (T) 198v 46r (T)
25. Psilios Pusillios 97v (B) 199r 46r ©
26. Melena Melena 98r 199v 46r (B)
27. Tribulenta Tribulosa 98v 200r 47v (T)
28. Coniza Coniza 99r 201r 47v (B)
29. Strygnos Strygnos 99v 201v 48r
30. Bustalmon Butalion 100r ? 202v (T) 48v (T)
31. Isfieritis Spyeritis 100v 202v (B) 48v (B)
32. Hyppypres Hipperis 101r 203r 49r (T)
33. Aizos Aizos 101v 204r 49r (B)
34. Tytimallos Titimallos 102r 204v 49v ©
35. Eliotropios Heliotropium 102v 205r 50v (T)
36. Scolymbos Scolymbos 103r (T) 205v 49v (B)
37. Achilleia Achillea 103r (B) 206r 50r (T)
38. Stafis agria Scaphisa(gira) 103v 206v 50r (B)
39. Cameleia ; turbiscon Camellea 104r 207r 51r (T)
40. Ficios ; hecios ; alciHecios 104v 207v 50v (B)
41. Splenios Splenios 105r 208r 51r (B)
42. Titmallos Titimallos 105v 208v 51v (T)
43. Glisirisa Clitiriza 106r 209v 51v (B)
44. Bulbus rufus Bulbus rufus 106v 210r 52r
45. Dracontea Dragontea 107r 211r 53r
46. Moecon Meochon 108r 212r 53v
47. Colocinthios agria Colocinthis agria 108v 213r 55v (B)
48. Ypericon ; corion Hypericon 109r 213v 56r
49. Lapatium Lapatium 109v 214r 56v (B)
50. Heliotropium Heliotropium 110r 215r 58v
51. Arnoglossa Arnaglosa 110v 215v 59r
52. Cameleuca Cameleuce 111v (T) 217r 59v (T)
53. Scylla Scilla 111v (B) 217v 59v ©
54. Erigion Eringion 112v 218v 60r
55. Iera Hiera 113r 219r 60v
56. Strutios Strucion 113v 220r 61r
57. Delfion Delfion 114r 220v 46v (T)
58. Centimorbia Centimorbia 114v (T) 221r 54r (T)
59. Viola Viola 114v (B) 221v 54r (B)
60. Capparra Cappara 115r 222v 55v ©
61. Ancusa Anchusa 115v 223r 56v (T)
62. Cynosbatos Cinobatos 116r (T) 223v 58r (T)
63. Anagallus Anagallus 116r (B) 224r 58r (B)
64. Panacia Panacra 116v 224v 57r (B)
65. Purpurea Purpurea 117r (T) 225r 57r ©
66. Camalention Zalamenticion 117r (B) 225v (T) 57v (T)
67. Camalention masc; Zalamenticion masc. 117v (T) 225v (B) 57v ©
68. Sion Syon 117v (B) 226r 57v (B)
69. Lachnis Lycanis 118r 226v 46v (B) ??
70. Abrotonum Abrotanus 118v 227r
71. Aparine; filantropos Aparina 119r 227v
RE: [Trinity] Plant identification in Trinity College MS O.2.48 Apuleii Herbarium - ReneZ - 11-05-2017
Here goes for the Pseudo-Apuleius sequence, same principle.
The numbers a from Howald and Sigerist.
Nr Official Name Other Name Pl.73.41 Pl.73.16 Cambr.O.2.48
1 Plantago Arnoglossa 16v 27v 3v
2 Quinquefolium Quinquifolia 31r 5r (B)
3 Verbenaca Columbaris 17v 33r 6v
4 Simfoniaca Symphoniaca 19r 35v 7r (BR)
5 Viperina Viperina 19v 37v 5r (T)
6 Veneria Achorum 20r 38r 7r (BL)
7 Pedeleonis Leontopodion 20v 39r 7v (T)
8 Scelerata (botracion?) 21r 40r 7v (B)
9 Botracion Statice 21v (T) 41r
10 Artemisia Monoclonos Toxotis 21v (B) 42r 8r
11 Artemisia Tagantes 22r 43r 8v ©
12 Artemisia Leptofillos 22v 44r
13 Lapatium Lapatium 23v 45r 8v (B)
14 Dracontea Dragontea 24r 46v 9r
15 Priapiscus Satyrion 24v 47v 9v (T)
16 Gentiana Gentiana 25r 48v 9v (B)
17 Orbicuaris Cyclaminum 25v 49r 10r (T)
18 Proserpinaca Proserpinatia 26r 50r 10r (B)
19 Aristolochia Aristolochia 27r 52v 10v
20 Nasturcium Nasturcium 27v 11r
21 Hieribulbum Hieribulbum 55r 11v (T)
22 Apollinaris Apollinaris 56r 11v (B)
23 Camemelon Camaemilon 56v 12r (T)
24 Camedris Camedris 57v 12r (B)
25 Camellea Camillea 58v 12v (T)
26 Camepitis Camepetini 60r 12v (B)
27 Camedafne Camedaphne 60v 13r (RT)
28 Ostriago Ostriago 61r 13r (T2)
29 Brittanica Britannica 61v 13r (R3)
30 Lactuca Silvatica Lactuca 62v 13v (T)
31 Argimonia Agrimonia 63v 13v (B)
32 Asfodilus Aspodilos 65v
33 Lapatium Acutum 66r
34 Centauria Maior Centauria Maior 66v
35 Centauria Minor Centauria Minor 67v
36 Personacia Personatia 69r 15r (T)
37 Fraga Fraga 70r 15r (B)
38 Ibiscum Altea 70v 15v (T)
39 Equiseta (H)ippirum 28r © 72r 15v (B)
40 Malva Erratica Malva Silvatica 28v 72v 16v (T)
41 Bovis Lingua Lingua Bovis 29r 73v 16v (B)
42 Scilla Scilla 29v 74v 17r (T)
43 Cotuledon Cotilidon 30r 75v 17r (B)
44 Gallicrus Gallicrus 30v 76v 17v (T)
45 Marrubium Marrubium 31r 77v 17v ©
46 Xifion Xiphion 31v 79v 17v (B)
47 Callitricum Gallitricum 32r 18r (T)
48 Molu Immolum 32v 80r 18r (2)
49 Heliotropa (H)eliotropium 33r 80v 18r (3)
50 Grias Grias 33v 81v 18r (B)
51 Politricum Polytrichum 82r 18v (T)
52 Astula Regia Astularegia 34r 83r 18v ©
53 Papaver Silvaticum Papaver 34v 84r 18v (B)
54 Oenante Astrantium 85r 19r (T)
55 Narcissus Narcissus 35r 85v 19r (2)
56 Splenion Splenion 35v 86r 19r (3)
57 Polion Poleion 36r (T) 87r 19r (B)
58 Victoriola Victoriola 36r (B) 87v 19v (T)
59 Confirma Symphytum 36v 19v (B)
60 Asterion Asterion 37r 88r 20r
61 Leporis Pes Leporis 37v 89r 21v (B)
62 Diptamnum Dyptannus 38r 89v 20v
63 Solago Maior Solago Maior 38v 90v 21v (T)
64 Solago Minor Solago Minor 39r (T) 91r 21v (RC)
65 Peonia Peonia 39r (B) 91v 22v
66 Peristereon Peristerion 39v 93r 22r (B)
67 Brionia Bryonia 40r 94r 22r (T)
68 Nimfea Nymphia 40v 95r 22r (RC)
69 Crision Crision 41r 95v 136r (T)
70 Isatis Isatis 41v (T) 96r 136v
71 Scordeon Scordeon 41v (B) 96v 136r (B)
72 Verbascum Verbascum 42r 97r ?
73 Heraclea Heraclea 42v 98v 23v (B)
74 Celidonia Celidonia 43r 99v 23r (T)
75 Solata Strignos 43v 99r 24r (T)
76 Senecion Senecion 44r 100r 24r (B)
77 Filix Felix 44v 101v 24v (B)
78 Gramen Gramen 45r 102v 25r (T)
79 Gladiolum Gladiolum 45v 103r 25r (B)
80 Rosmarinum Rosmarinum 46r 104v 26r
81 Pastinaca Silvatica Pastinaca silvatica 46v 105r 26v (CR)
82 Perdicalis Perdicalis 47r (T) 106r 26v (BR)
83 Mercurialis Mercurialis 47r (B) 106v 26v (BL)
84 Radiolum Radiolus 47v 107v 27r (T)
85 Sparagus Agrestis Asparagus 48r 108v 27r (B)
86 Sabina Savina 48v (T) 109v 27v
87 Canis Cerebrum Canis Caput 48v (B) 110v 28r (T)
88 Rubus Erusca 49r 111r
89 Millefolium Millefolium 49v 113r 28r (B)
90 Ruta Hortensis Ruta 50r 114r 28v
91 Mentastrum Mentastrum 51r 115r 29r
92 Ebulum Ebulus 51v 116r 29v
93 Puleium Poleius 52r 117r 30r
94 Nepeta Montana Nepita 53r 120v 31r (RC)
95 Peucedanum Peucidanum 53v (T) 121r 31r (R2)
96 Innula Campana Inula Campana 53v (B) 121v 34v (RT)
97 Lingua Canis Cynoglossum 54r 122v 34v (RC)
98 Saxifraga Saxifraga 54v (T) 123r 31r (BC)
99 Hedera Nigra Edera Nigra 54v (B) 123v 31v
100 Serpullum Serpillum 55v (T) 125r 32r (T)
101 Absintium Absinthium 55v (B) 125v 32r (RB)
102 Salvia Salvia 56r 126v 32v (T)
103 Cariandrum Coliandrum 56v 127r 32v (B)
104 Portulaca Portulaca 57r (T) 128r 33r (RT)
105 Cerefolium Cerfolium 57r (B) 128v 33r (RC)
106 Sisimbrium Sisymbrium 57v (T) 129r 33r (BC)
107 Olisatrum Olisatrum 57v (B) 129v 33r (RB)
108 Lilium Lilium 58r (T) 130r 33v ©
109 Titimallus Titimallos 58r (B) 130v 33v (T)
110 Cardus Silvaticus Cardo silvaticus 58v (T) 131v 33v (B)
111 Lupinum Montanum Lupinus 58v (B) 132r 34r (RT)
112 Latirida Latiridis 59r (T) 132v 34r (RC)
113 Lactuca Leporina Lactuca Leporina 59r (B) 133r 34r (RB)
114 Cucumis Silvaticus Sicidis agria 59v 133v 34v (RB)
115 Cannabis Silvatica Cannabis 60r 134v 35v (T)
116 Ruta Silvatica Ruta Montana 60v 135v 35v (RB)
117 Septefolium Eptaphillos 61r 137r 36r (RT) ?
118 Ocimum Ocymum 61v (T) 137v 36r (RB)
119 Apium Apium 61v (B) 138r 36v (RT)
120 Hedera Crisocantes Chrysocantis 62r 138v 36v (RC)
121 Menta Menta 62v (T) 139v 36v (RB)
122 Anetum Anetum 62v (B) 140r 37r (RT)
123 Origanus Origanum 63r (T) 140v 37r (RC)
124 Sempervivum Sempervivium 63r (B) 141r 37r (RB)
125 Feniculum Feniculum 63v 141v 37v (RT)
126 Erifion Exision 64r 142r 37v (RC)
127 Simfitum Album Symphytum 64v (T) ? 143r 37v (RB)
128 Petroselinum Petroselinum 64v (B) 143v 38r (RT)
129 Brassica Silvatica Brassica silvatica 144r 38v
130 Basilisca Basilisca 144v 38r (RC)
131 Mandragora Mandragora 147r 39r
RE: [Trinity] Plant identification in Trinity College MS O.2.48 Apuleii Herbarium - Koen G - 11-05-2017
Wonderful, thanks Rene!
I think "12. Artemisia Leptofillos" is on f4v, you can see the name just under the bottom red line.
And "72. Verbascum" is on 23r, Barbascus.
RE: [Trinity] Plant identification in Trinity College MS O.2.48 Apuleii Herbarium - ReneZ - 11-05-2017
The Artemisia looks right, but the problem with the Verbascum is that it does not look *at all* like the standard Verbascum. The latter is best described as a brown cactus.
It could be a mistake by the artist, which is also something that happens from time to time.
The Verbascum in Kassel MS: 2° Ms. phys. et hist. nat. 10 ( You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. )
does not look like a brown cactus, but also does not look like the Cambridge version.
RE: [Trinity] Plant identification in Trinity College MS O.2.48 Apuleii Herbarium - Koen G - 11-05-2017
There may have been some mixing up going on here. The order goes like this:
74. Celidonia
72. ?Verbascum?
73. Heraclea
75. Strignos
76. Senecion
I think there is no doubt that the name "Barbascus" refers to Verbascum. B and V are easily merged or confused (see modern Spanish) and the same goes for A and E (see transcriptions from Arabic, Hindi etc.). But the thing with the brown cactus is weird indeed...
RE: [Trinity] Plant identification in Trinity College MS O.2.48 Apuleii Herbarium - MarcoP - 11-05-2017
The text of Cambridge 23r matches with Plut. 73.16 97v: it says that Verbascum grows in sandy places and that Mercury gave this plant to Ulysses.
PS: curiously, it seems that "barbascum" might have been the original Latin form (bearded plant) from which Verbascum derived. And the plant doesn't look much like a cactus. Maybe in this case the illustrator corrected the image?
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RE: [Trinity] Plant identification in Trinity College MS O.2.48 Apuleii Herbarium - MarcoP - 11-05-2017
Leiden VLQ 9 (Southern Italy, VI Century) used to be accessible online, but I think it isn't anymore. Anyway, I guess You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. is from that herbal. The lower part of the Trinity plant is very similar to Plut 73 41. The yellow flowers are closer to the actual plant than the brown cactus, and maybe reminiscent of something like the yellow spikes in the Leiden ms.
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