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82r: A change of plans? - VViews - 19-03-2017 Hi everyone, Looking at 82r the other day, I noticed a line I hadn't seen before: The reason this grabbed my attention is because this line seems to be some remnant of a former plan for the page, which would have been erased. Could the vertical line originally have been through the whole page? Interestingly, at the top of the page there are two "arches", and if we consider all these elements together, I wonder if the original plan for the page may have been a two column text, nestled under two arches, as can be seen in many medieval manuscripts' layout. (the following is just a lazy grab from a quick Google search, I'm not trying to say it matches this one, but just to give an illustration of the type of layout I'm referring to): Glasgow MS Hunter 475, 12th C Sicily,  21v-22r. I'm curious to know what others think: Could this page have been meant to be designed differently? Could the creator of the Voynich have betrayed the fact that this page was inspired by a manuscript where the layout was in a two-column format with arches at the top? RE: 82r: A change of plans? - Anton - 19-03-2017 Do you mean the line in the middle? To me it looks like some parchment impairment - a fold or a cut maybe. RE: 82r: A change of plans? - VViews - 19-03-2017 Yes, the vertical line in the middle. I don't think it's a cut. It could be a fold. RE: 82r: A change of plans? - Koen G - 19-03-2017 I also think it's probably the result of damage to the material. It's the special lighting they use for these scans and the result of the pores in the parchment. For example, this is part of the fold between the folios from the same image.     Only here we know what kind of change in surface to expect to we can interpret the shadows in the right way. When we see something like that in the middle of a page, it does look like a smudged ink line. RE: 82r: A change of plans? - Wladimir D - 19-03-2017 I think this is a defect of the sheet. A similar vertical line exists on the next page f82v. RE: 82r: A change of plans? - VViews - 19-03-2017 Thanks WladimirD! I should have checked the other side first before posting this thread: the reverse really makes it clear that this line wasn't drawn. RE: 82r: A change of plans? - davidjackson - 19-03-2017 It's a pretty ropey bit of parchment - note the tear just off to the left.