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RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH - Radim Dobeš - 12-04-2026
I have tried to compare the Qumran roundel and folio You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in a little more detail. Even after this comparison, I still think that this is a solar calendar for 364 (360 +4) days. I think that this folio has a connection to other parts of the VMS as well.
RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH - Radim Dobeš - 16-04-2026
Folio You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and Qumran roundel, an informative analysis of the geometric arrangement of objects on f71r.
All graphic objects on the circular diagrams are precisely geometrically arranged. The positions of the hands, the edges of the vats, the dimensions of the capricorn, the shape of the horns, the angle between the legs, the shapes of the patterns on the vats, the positions of the characters' eyes, the glyphs and their inclinations, etc. Everything is placed using a rotating polar field with rays around one center. Two different rays must tangentially touch two different circles. Nothing lies outside these trajectories and semicircles.
RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH - Stefan Wirtz_2 - 16-04-2026
Holy Moses...
There is nothing even similar in these comparisons between Qumran and the Voynich drawings, apart from one:
yes, the round drawings of VMS are also (quite) round, as well as the Qumran thing.
All other "relations" are arbitrarily made up without any proof quality.
RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH - Radim Dobeš - 16-04-2026
(16-04-2026, 01:02 PM)Stefan Wirtz_2 Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Holy Moses...
There is nothing even similar in these comparisons between Qumran and the Voynich drawings, apart from one:
yes, the round drawings of VMS are also (quite) round, as well as the Qumran thing.
All other "relations" are arbitrarily made up without any proof quality.
The proof is the geometric arrangement. And further proof is the entire rest of the astronomical book of Enoch and the solar calendar with 364 days.
RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH - Radim Dobeš - 17-04-2026
Over the last few weeks I've been working more on geometry and astronomy on VMS. To take a break from that, I've been working on folio You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. based on the Second Book of Enoch.
RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH - Radim Dobeš - 27-04-2026
Description of the parable on Folio f40v:
BOOK OF ENOCH
Chapter 14
And lo! there was a second house, greater 16 than the former, and the entire portal stood open before me, and it was built of flames of fire. And in every respect it so excelled in splendour and magnificence and extent that I cannot describe to 17 you its splendour and its extent. And its floor was of fire, and above it were lightnings and the path 18 of the stars, and its ceiling also was flaming fire. And I looked and saw therein a lofty throne: its appearance was as crystal, and the wheels thereof as the shining sun, and there was the vision of 19 cherubim. And from underneath the throne came streams of flaming fire so that I could not look 20 thereon. And the Great Glory sat thereon, and His raiment shone more brightly than the sun and 21 was whiter than any snow. None of the angels could enter and could behold His face by reason 22 of the magnificence and glory and no flesh could behold Him. The flaming fire was round about Him, and a great fire stood before Him, and none around could draw nigh Him: ten thousand times 23 ten thousand (stood) before Him, yet He needed no counselor. And the most holy ones who were 24 nigh to Him did not leave by night nor depart from Him. And until then I had been prostrate on my face, trembling: and the Lord called me with His own mouth, and said to me: ' Come hither, 25 Enoch, and hear my word.' And one of the holy ones came to me and waked me, and He made me rise up and approach the door: and I bowed my face downwards.
Description of Athanasius Kircher's diagram
The image you shared is a diagram from the book Musurgia Universalis (1650), written by the Jesuit polymath Athanasius Kircher. This massive work is one of the most influential treatises on music theory, acoustics, and the "harmony of the spheres" from the Baroque era.
Specifically, this is the Circulus Universalis (Universal Circle) diagram found on page 450 in Book X, titled Decachordon Naturae.
Key Meanings of the Diagram
Kircher used this illustration to show that the entire universe—from God down to the smallest element—is organized according to mathematical and musical laws.
The Three Enneads (Hierarchies): The central column links three main levels of existence, each divided into nine parts (enneads):
Enneas I (Angelic): The top circle represents the nine choirs of angels and the divine realm.
Enneas II (Sidereal/Celestial): The middle section shows the heavenly bodies and the spheres of the planets.
Enneas III (Elementary): The bottom circle deals with the earthly world, the four elements, and the human body.
Art of Consonance and Dissonance: The header "Artis Magnae Consoni & Dissoni" refers to the "Great Art of Accord and Discord." Kircher argued that even opposites in nature are tied together by a divine harmonic structure.
Pyramids of Light and Shadow: You can see two overlapping triangles (pyramids) labeled Pyramis Lucis (Pyramid of Light) and Pyramis Umbrae (Pyramid of Shadow). This represents the interaction between the spiritual (light) and the material (darkness/matter) worlds.
This diagram essentially treats the universe as a giant musical instrument played by God.
RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH - Radim Dobeš - 06-05-2026
In the astronomical part of the Book of Enoch, the paths of celestial bodies are described by complex lunar and solar relations. The Voynich manuscript consistently transcribes the Book of Enoch. The movement of the moon is therefore described using epicycloids (see previous posts) and a mechanism that creates a trajectory shown on folio f68v3. At that time, the most accurate movement of the moon using a mechanical transmission was compiled by Giovanni Dondi. The author used these described mechanisms, including non-circular gear transmissions, in the VM.
RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH - Jorge_Stolfi - 06-05-2026
(06-05-2026, 06:27 AM)Radim Dobeš Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.In the astronomical part of the Book of Enoch, the paths of celestial bodies are described by complex lunar and solar relations.
The You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. "explains" the motion of the Sun by claiming that there are six "portals" beyond the West horizon, and the same number beyond the East horizon; and each day the Sun comes out of one of the East portals, and goes to one of the West portals, changing the pair gradually back and forth along the year.
I bet that this very crude description of the Sun's movement was one of the reasons why the Book was excluded from the Biblical canon, by both Jews an European Christians. Even before 100 BC, astronomy was already advanced enough to imply that "Enoch's" description be obviously and childishly wrong.
All the best, --stolfi
RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH - Radim Dobeš - 06-05-2026
(06-05-2026, 07:04 AM)Jorge_Stolfi Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. "explains" the motion of the Sun by claiming that there are six "portals" beyond the West horizon, and the same number beyond the East horizon; and each day the Sun comes out of one of the East portals, and goes to one of the West portals, changing the pair gradually back and forth along the year.
I bet that this very crude description of the Sun's movement was one of the reasons why the Book was excluded from the Biblical canon, by both Jews an European Christians. Even before 100 BC, astronomy was already advanced enough to imply that "Enoch's" description be obviously and childishly wrong.
All the best, --stolfi
What I am trying to present here is the effort of the author VM to convert the Book of Enoch into a graphic form. For the Book of Watchers and the Book of Parables, he chose plants into which he drew individual parables. For the Astronomical Book, instead of text and tables, he chose a mechanical calculating and displaying machine. For the 2nd Book of Enoch, he used the form of naked nymphs. For the Apocalyptic Book, he used a recipe book form of representation. You are certainly right that Enoch's astronomy is surpassed by today's view, but some nations and religions still use this 360-day calendar with 4 special days and 13 months. To date, no one has dealt with this mechanics from the Voynich manuscript, or this is ignored. Please be patient, I am gradually working on it.
RE: Voynich is encrypted ENOCH - Radim Dobeš - 07-05-2026
The connection between Athanasius Kircher,
the Book of Enoch and the Voynich manuscript
(Radim Dobeš 2026)
1. Nicolas-Claude Fabri de Peiresc (1580–1637) was a prominent French astronomer, antiquarian, and polymath who became one of the most influential figures of the 17th-century scientific revolution. Although he published almost nothing during his lifetime, his vast correspondence has earned him the nickname "Prince of the Republic of Scholars."
2. Nicolas-Claude Fabri de Peiresc played a key role in the beginnings of European Ethiopistics (the study of Ethiopian culture and language) in the 17th century. His connection with Ethiopia lies primarily in his abiding interest in oriental manuscripts and his efforts to connect European scholars with knowledge from the Horn of Africa. Highlights of his Ethiopian activities:
3. The Search for the Book of Enoch: Peiresc was obsessed with finding the lost biblical Book of Enoch. He believed that its complete text was preserved in Ethiopia. In 1636, he obtained from missionaries in Egypt an Ethiopian manuscript that he mistakenly believed to be the book he was looking for (in fact, it was the work Mäṣḥafä mǝśṭirä – The Book of the Secrets of Heaven and Earth).
4. Nicolas-Claude Fabri de Peiresc and Athanasius Kircher met. Peiresc played a crucial role in Kircher's life. Their meeting in Avignon in 1632 began one of the most important scientific partnerships of the time.
5. Peiresc made his extensive collections and library available to Kircher, including Arabic and Coptic manuscripts, which later became the basis for Kircher's pioneering (albeit controversial) studies on Coptic and hieroglyphs.
6. It was through Peiresco and his network that Kircher gained access to information and materials related to Ethiopian Christianity and the Ge'ez language, both of which he saw as key to understanding ancient Egypt.
7. Peiresc was convinced that the complete Book of Enoch (mentioned in the Bible but lost in Europe) was preserved in Ethiopia. In 1636, he finally obtained an Ethiopian manuscript that he believed was the book he was looking for.
8. Peiresc showed the manuscript to Athanasius Kircher. Both were enthusiastic, but since no one in Europe at the time really understood Ethiopic (the Ge'ez language), they could not immediately verify the text.
9. It was not until 40 years later that the German scholar Hiob Ludolf, the founder of modern Ethiopian studies, examined the manuscript and discovered that it was the work Mäṣḥafä mǝśṭirä (The Book of the Secrets of Heaven and Earth) by a 15th-century monk named Bahaila Michael. It was a rare book, but not the biblical one.
10. Nevertheless, in 1636 a Capuchin named Gilles de Losches claimed to possess an Ethiopic copy of Enoch. Losches was said to have been freed from 'the Turkish Gallyes' by the collector Nicholas Claude Fabri de Peiresc (1580-1637), to whom he apparently gave the manuscript in gratitude. By 1656 this Ethiopic text had found its way into Cardinal Mazarin's library, and was later described as having '83. leaues, in a good faire character, bound in wood, cased in calfs leather, in smal 4to'. Not until Hiob Ludolf (1624-1704) published his Historia Aethiopica (Frankfurt, 1681) was it revealed that this supposed book of Enoch was in fact a series of 'very clear discourses of the Mysteries of Heaven and Earth, and the Holy Trinity' by one Abba Bahaila Michael. Though the manuscript acquired by Losches had proved to be 'a Book with a false Title', the Jesuit Athanasius Kircher (1601-1680) cited from what he claimed was a Greek version of the Book of Enoch preserved in the monastic library of San Salvatore in Messina, Sicily. Moreover, Greek fragments of the text have also been preserved in the Byzantine chronicle 'Extract of Chronography' by Georgius Syncellus (after 810). Among these fragments is the story (1 Enoch 6, 1-10, 14) of how the fallen angels lusted after the daughters of men, taking them to wife and begetting gigantic progeny. These verses, with marginal differences, were reproduced by Joseph Juste Scaliger (1540-1609) in his treatise on the church historian Eusebius of Caesarea. Much of Scaliger's version was later translated into English, appearing in Samuel Purchas' Purchas his Pilgrimage (2nd ed. 1614). The story of the origin of the giants recurs in 'The Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs' (Reuben's testament) and it seems that this extra-canonical account was used by Theaurau John Tany (1608-1659) to advance a heterodox reading of Genesis 6, 1-4.
11. Greek Fragments (Syncellus): Kircher knew and published an edition of the Greek fragments of Enoch, preserved in the chronicle of the Byzantine historian Georgy Syncellus. These excerpts were at that time the only real (albeit incomplete) parts of the text available to European scholars.
12. Abenephius and Arabic Sources: Kircher quoted a mysterious Arabic author named Abenephius in his works. This text contained legends about Enoch (identified with Idris or Hermes Trismegistus), but modern scholarship tends to suggest that Kircher either heavily modified these "fragments" or that Abenephius was a fictional character used by Kircher to support his theories.
13. Enoch as the "founder of wisdom": For Kircher, Enoch was not only the author of a book, but above all a mythical figure who, according to him, transferred antediluvian knowledge to Egypt in the form of hieroglyphs
14. Kircher's monumental work Mundus Subterraneus (Underground World, 1665) is a fascinating fusion of contemporary science and biblical mythology. Although Kircher sought a rational explanation of natural phenomena, the figures of the giants (Nephilim) from the Book of Enoch fit organically into his model of the world.
15. In Kircher's conception, strongly influenced by Peiresco, Enoch was not just a prophet, but a guardian of ancient knowledge. Technology and sin: The Book of Enoch describes how fallen angels (the Guardians) taught humans magic and metallurgy. In Mundus Subterraneus, Kircher discussed alchemy and mining, seeing this knowledge as a legacy that humanity had learned before the flood, but which had been misused for pride and sin. Physical existence: Kircher sought to rid the "Enochian" giants of the label of purely mythical monsters and describe them as physiologically real people of enormous stature who benefited from the extraordinary fertility of the early world. For Kircher, the entire Earth was like a living organism (with veins in the form of fire and water channels), whose history was inscribed in the subterranean layers, where the myths of the Book of Enoch became tangible geology.
Citation:
Hessayon, Ariel. (2006). Og King of Bashan, Enoch and the Books of Enoch: Extra-Canonical Texts and Interpretations of Genesis 6:1-4.