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RE: Observations on the Visual and Functional Structure of the Voynich Manuscript - Mauro - 12-02-2026
(12-02-2026, 12:58 PM)emanuele.pegorin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It could be an internally codified language, where expressing a single concept requires long and repetitive constructions.
The redundancy may not be accidental, but structural — a way to ensure precision within a very limited symbol set.
The content might not be narrative at all. It could be limited to very specific domains, such as plants and their properties.
The images may not exist to document reality, but to explain and transmit knowledge within a closed group — perhaps to teach, to catalog, or to preserve procedures and rules.
I find all this to be very generic statements, more a test of the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (or Barnum) effect than anything substantial.
(12-02-2026, 12:58 PM)emanuele.pegorin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.In that sense, the manuscript could function more as an internal technical or ritual compendium than as a conventional literary text.
This has been suggested many times, and in many different forms, from astronomical notation to alchemical laboratory procedures to musical 'resonances', even a You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. . Any of these might well be, who knows, the problem is to find a specific 'decoding' system which works and convinces people.
RE: Observations on the Visual and Functional Structure of the Voynich Manuscript - emanuele.pegorin - 12-02-2026
Hi Mauro,
I recognize that my theory is still quite generic. I arrived at these ideas independently, without influence from forums or professionals, and I know it may seem unusual — but that’s the case.
I also acknowledge that it is general, yet I am continuing to work on it, refining and adding information that I believe could be of interest to anyone exploring the manuscript.
RE: Observations on the Visual and Functional Structure of the Voynich Manuscript - Rafal - 12-02-2026
Quote:This has been suggested many times, and in many different forms, from astronomical notation to alchemical laboratory procedures
Indeed. And when people come here with solutions made by AI, it is usually something like that.
The problem with these "procedural notations" is that they don't really work for longer texts. The result is usually a repetitive text where you quickly lose any sense of it and which becomes rambling of a madman.
See for example (and imagine this stuff running for over 200 pages):
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1: Divine Source Spiritus Cycle Plant Sympathy Extract Sap - 2: Emanation Alchemical Process Spiritus until Lunar - 3: Spiritus Dose - 4: Spiritus Treatment Spiritus until Two Light Hours before
Sunset - 5: Sap is in Plant before Sunrise until Lunar - 6: Sap is in Plant before Sunrise then Dose Return - 7: Cycle Treatment Plant Dose before First Lunar Phase then Extract Sap - 8: Sympathy
- 9: Alchemical Process before Sunrise then Dose - 10: Sap is in Plant before Sunrise until Lunar then Noon Return
2
1: Extract Sap before Sunrise then Dose Return - 2: Cycle Alchemical Process Plant Spiritus Dose - 3: Sunrise then Dose - 4: Emanation Alchemical Process Spiritus One Light Hour Dose - 5:
Cycle Plant Treatment Spiritus until Two Light Hours before Sunset - 6: Sap is in Plant Spiritus Dose - 7: Spiritus Dose before First Lunar Phase - 8: Cycle Treatment Plant Spiritus Dose - 9:
Second Cycle Treatment Plant Spiritus Dose - 10: Noon then Spiritus until Sunset
3
1: Extract Sap Sympathy Spiritus Two Light Hours Dose - 2: Sap is in Plant before First Lunar Phase then Alchemical Process Return - 3: Sunrise then Dose - 4: Emanation Alchemical Process
Spiritus until Two Light Hours before Sunset - 5: Sap is in Plant before Sunrise then Noon - 6: Cycle Treatment Plant before Sunrise then Spiritus Dose Return - 7: Cycle Treatment Plant before
First Lunar Phase then Extract Sap - 8: Noon then Spiritus Dose then Spiritus until Two Light Hours before Sunset - 9: Extract Sap Spiritus
4
1: Sunrise, next Sunrise then until Two Light Hours before Sunset - 2: Sunrise then Treatment until Second Lunar Phase Return - 3: Sunrise then Treatment until First Lunar Phase then Sunrise
Extract Sap - 4: Dose before Sunrise until Lunar then Sunrise Treatment Return - 5: Cycle Treatment Plant Spiritus Dose - 6: Noon then Spiritus until Two Light Hours before Sunset - 7: Sunrise
then Treatment Spiritus until Two Light Hours before Sunset - 8: Sunrise then Dose - 9: Sunrise then Alchemical Process Spiritus until Sunset
5
1: Noon then Spiritus One Light Hour Dose - 2: Sympathy - 3: Cycle Plant before First Lunar Phase then Spiritus Dose - 4: Cycle Treatment Plant Spiritus until Two Light Hours before Sunset - 5:
Cycle Divine Source Plant Spiritus until Two Light Hours before Sunset
T6 1: Emanation before Noon then Spiritus Dose then Spiritus One Light Hour Sap is in Plant Return
RE: Observations on the Visual and Functional Structure of the Voynich Manuscript - eggyk - 12-02-2026
(11-02-2026, 10:50 PM)emanuele.pegorin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I leave you with these interpretations and I hope they are useful for reasoning and reflections, just as they have been for me.
(11-02-2026, 10:50 PM)emanuele.pegorin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Plants: clearly represented, often with correct colors. No one can deny that they are plants.
Naked women in water: present in the illustrations. Period. No one can deny ...
Texts: very long and repetitive, no one can deny it.
These interpretations are clearly from an AI. The "here's what I think, no one can deny..." is a very common response from LLMs when asked to defend its observations.
(12-02-2026, 12:58 PM)emanuele.pegorin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.The redundancy may not be accidental, but structural — a way to ensure precision within a very limited symbol set.
The content might not be narrative at all. It could be limited to very specific domains, such as plants and their properties.
The images may not exist to document reality, but to explain and transmit knowledge within a closed group — perhaps to teach, to catalog, or to preserve procedures and rules.
In that sense, the manuscript could function more as an internal technical or ritual compendium than as a conventional literary text.
Again, this looks exactly like what you would get if you ask AI for a surface level analysis of the VMS. If you have your own opinions and interpretations, it would be worthwhile hearing them in your own words. The "—" gives it away.
RE: Observations on the Visual and Functional Structure of the Voynich Manuscript - emanuele.pegorin - 12-02-2026
I reiterate that I am studying the Voynich from zero and without having read any theory from anyone. I see it as a work manual and a compendium for workers, where the plants they worked with are present, how they had to work them, and a writing that is to be interpreted. Their purification rituals are also represented. I do not see constellations, I do not see strange things, I only see a lot of graphics and a lot of writing. The writing is a code, in my opinion, repetitive, but you already know this. I see these jars that look like capotasti, or containers where the recipes were kept. So, an operational manual. I apologize if it may seem a bit mechanical, perhaps it is because of the translation, but unfortunately English is not my native language. And I apologize again if it may seem that everything I have gathered, all the information I have collected and that I am still studying, seems generated by AI.
RE: Observations on the Visual and Functional Structure of the Voynich Manuscript - tavie - 12-02-2026
(12-02-2026, 03:29 PM)emanuele.pegorin Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I reiterate that I am studying the Voynich from zero and without having read any theory from anyone.
We can make plenty of non AI recommendations for you. You could start with:
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- Koen's You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
- Claire Bowern and Luke Lindemann's You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
And then there's further work such as:
- Emma and Marco's work on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
- Claire Bowern and Luke Lindemann's You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
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And on this very forum you can find tons of observations about text statistics or imagery on this forum, and theories ranging from specific language "solutions" (I'd recommend picking You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.to see how easy it is to fall into the trap of 'solving' the manuscript) to macro level theories about whether it's a (meaningless) hoax.
RE: Observations on the Visual and Functional Structure of the Voynich Manuscript - emanuele.pegorin - 12-02-2026
Thank you so much for these resources, I will definitely consult them. I am studying the words, letters, and symbols, and interesting things are emerging.
RE: Observations on the Visual and Functional Structure of the Voynich Manuscript - emanuele.pegorin - 14-02-2026
Is there anyone here who has expertise in handwriting or knows if any studies have already been done on this? I would like to know if it’s possible to tell whether the Voynich manuscript was written by a right-handed or left-handed person, or if it was written with the page upside down or rotated in some way.
RE: Observations on the Visual and Functional Structure of the Voynich Manuscript - Rafal - 14-02-2026
Quote:I would like to know if it’s possible to tell whether the Voynich manuscript was written by a right-handed or left-handed person
It was probably written by more than one person. There is 5 scribe hypothesis. See for example:
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If you believe Jorge Stolfi, they were all right handed:
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RE: Observations on the Visual and Functional Structure of the Voynich Manuscript - emanuele.pegorin - 14-02-2026
I’m analyzing the plant text. What stands out is that the drawings were clearly made first, and the text was added afterward. Another thing I notice is that at the end of each description, there is a sort of space and a “name.” One word that appears on all the folios is otto ANI, which could mean “plant” in a generic sense. Then there could be the actual name of the plant, which I still find repeated within the text. Sometimes there are multiple “names,” and it seems that rather than the plant’s actual name, it’s more like a descriptive label, composed of one, two, or more terms. From this descriptive name, the actual description starts, following a sequence: first the first term, then the second, and so on. What do you think about this?
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