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RE: Month names collection / metastudy - Juan_Sali - 19-06-2025

Another one:
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januier, februer, mars, apuril, may^, juing, juillet, aoust, septembre, octembre, novembre, decembre
Book of hours for the use of Angers 1429/1430

RE: Month names collection / metastudy - Koen G - 19-06-2025

Thanks, added!

I wonder what to do with examples like this one. It is for the "use of Angers", but likely made in Paris? (Very rich).

RE: Month names collection / metastudy - nablator - 19-06-2025

(19-06-2025, 05:17 PM)Juan_Sali Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.februer... novembre

feurier nouembre

Quote:Book of hours for the use of Angers 1429/1430

Angers is in Pays de la Loire, 260 km South-East of Paris. Dodgy

RE: Month names collection / metastudy - nablator - 19-06-2025

A different book of hours for the use of Angers ca. 1450:
Ianuier, Feurier, Mars, Auril, May, Iuing, Iuillet, Aougst, Septembre, Octobre, Nouembre, Decembre
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(Same months as Rouen 1520.)

RE: Month names collection / metastudy - Jorge_Stolfi - 20-06-2025

(15-06-2025, 10:29 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I have no great means to add much to this discussion from where I am right now, but I would suggest that any proposed list should at least include one (ideally two) of:
- a 'b' in April

Maybe you saw this already, but April is "abril" (with "b") in Spanish, Portuguese, and Catalan.
  • You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., scribe of the Pedro Álvares Cabral expedition to India, reporting back to the Crown the "discovery" of Brazil on 22 april 1500.
Starting at line 8 from the bottom of that page (page 1), it is supposed to read
  • Easy segujmos nosso caminho per este mar delomgo ataa terça feira doitauas de pascoa que foram xxj dias dabril que topamos alguu[n]s synaaes de tera seemdo da dita jlha segº os pilotos deziam obra de
In modern Portuguese:
  • E assim seguimos nosso caminho por este mar, de longo, até terça-feira d'oitavas de Páscoa, que foram 21 dias d'Abril, que topámos alguns sinais de terra, sendo da dita ilha, segundo os pilotos diziam, obra de
Translation:
  • And so we continued our way through this sea, a long way(?), until the Tuesday the eighth or Easter, which would be day 21 of April, when we saw some signs of land, being that said island, according to what the pilots said, about 
The word "dabril" in that letter is the contraction of the preposition "de" (="of") and "abril" (="April").

RE: Month names collection / metastudy - Juan_Sali - 20-06-2025

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jenuier, feurier, mars, avril, may, juing, jullet, aoust, septembre, octembre, decembre
Book of hours for the use of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (Belgium, near the border with France)

RE: Month names collection / metastudy - nablator - 20-06-2025

(20-06-2025, 05:27 PM)Juan_Sali Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
jenuier, feurier, mars, avril, may, juing, jullet, aoust, septembre, octembre, decembre
Book of hours for the use of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (Belgium, near the border with France)

Tournai
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RE: Month names collection / metastudy - Koen G - 20-06-2025

I added a region column to the sheet since not everyone knows the location of cities like Tournai by heart. Some entries' regions are still unclear to me.

OT: I would have never believed to be filling in "Belgium" as a relevant region to anything Voynich relayed  Wink

RE: Month names collection / metastudy - R. Sale - 20-06-2025

Here's a calendar that's interesting, even though it will score low - because it used a different system. There are months that I can't make out the spelling, but there is "Abrell'" for April, - the only "Ab*" entry so far. And August appears to be "Ougst", where the 'g' is very uncommon.

Appenzell c. 1540

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RE: Month names collection / metastudy - R. Sale - 21-06-2025

This calendar in the German system between 1458 -1476 only matches in "Abrille" (5r), "May" (6r) and "Augst" (9r).

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Another example of an "Ab*" name for April and for the use of 'g' in August from German sources.