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RE: Wherefore art thou, aberil? - Koen G - 26-01-2026
(26-01-2026, 11:06 AM)nablator Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Glarus (Switzerland) but no date/manuscript: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
It's a German-speaking area, so the other months don't match well.
Thanks! I have some distrust towards anything I can't see in the original MS though (i.e. dictionary entries, print editions). I searched "Glarus" on the forum and came across this post by Searcher: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
One of the entries is a printed transcription of a work which only exists in a single MS: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. around line 1900 . See for yourself...
(Edit: I hope I didn't get the wrong MS... there's a lot wrong with that transcription).
RE: Wherefore art thou, aberil? - ReneZ - 26-01-2026
(26-01-2026, 12:31 PM)Doireannjane Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.If something is written in a multicultural way (throughout the text not just the “months”) you have to read it in a multicultural way.
I am sorry, but this is backwards logic.
If one is interpreting something in a multicultural way, this is just a choice. It does not mean that it was actually written in a multicultural way.
RE: Wherefore art thou, aberil? - MarcoP - 26-01-2026
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This one from Muri (also Switzerland) seems reliable to me, but it's late: 1688.
RE: Wherefore art thou, aberil? - Doireannjane - 26-01-2026
(26-01-2026, 01:21 PM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(26-01-2026, 12:31 PM)Doireannjane Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.If something is written in a multicultural way (throughout the text not just the “months”) you have to read it in a multicultural way.
I am sorry, but this is backwards logic.
If one is interpreting something in a multicultural way, this is just a choice. It does not mean that it was actually written in a multicultural way.
It’s certainly a choice to ignore Celtic script, I’ll give you that.
RE: Wherefore art thou, aberil? - ReneZ - 27-01-2026
Which Celtic script?
Certainly not that of the book of Kells, that you highlighted in a figure, a few posts ago.
RE: Wherefore art thou, aberil? - Doireannjane - 27-01-2026
(27-01-2026, 01:01 AM)ReneZ Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Which Celtic script?
Certainly not that of the book of Kells, that you highlighted in a figure, a few posts ago.
The inner compressed script for the center circle words are all pretty definitively Celtic script characters. Are they not?
RE: Wherefore art thou, aberil? - Doireannjane - 27-01-2026
Perhaps even more confounding, is this number here. Am I reading that correctly?
RE: Wherefore art thou, aberil? - Koen G - 27-01-2026
All I see from you are bizarre off-topic posts, insinuations of anti-Irishness (??) and now also nasty ad-hominem attacks. I understand tavie has been patiently trying to explain forum policy to you, and you've had many chances, but clearly to no avail. Good luck with your research.
RE: Wherefore art thou, aberil? - zachary.kaelan - 03-02-2026
Supposedly there's something called "betacism", which was the shift from "b" sounds to "v" sounds or vice versa, and this is potentially the source of "abril" in a lot of languages, including some dialects of Occitan.
However, I also see that it's "Abrëll" in Luxembourgish, which I find very interesting, given its proximity to high ranking handwriting matches for the back page marginalia.
EDIT: It may come from Middle High German's "You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.".
RE: Wherefore art thou, aberil? - nablator - 03-02-2026
Isn't it more like a coin toss?
French abricot / English apricot
Spanish abril / French avril / English april
Variations in b/p/v spellings existed until the languages were standardized, so an exact match is not very important.