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RE: EVA "qo" in 15th century Spanish cipher - JoJo_Jost - 26-08-2026
Latin -que means “and” and is an enclitic, meaning that it is attached to the second of the two coordinated words.
For example:
senatus populusque = “the Senate and the people”
So structurally spoken:
A B-que = A and B
In Classical Latin, -que is normally not written as a separate word but attached directly to the preceding word.
RE: EVA "qo" in 15th century Spanish cipher - Aga Tentakulus - 26-08-2026
All very interesting points.
I’ll incorporate them into my research.
Particularly the sound shift in ‘que, quae, qua’.
Following the motto: think in German, but write in Latin.
A sound shift like ‘Anis’, ‘Änis’, ‘Enis’.
4o makes sense.
RE: EVA "qo" in 15th century Spanish cipher - JoJo_Jost - 26-08-2026
@ Aga This is the last thing I'm going to write about this: No, that doesn't make any sense....sorry...
@ Aga Das ist das letzte was ich dazu schreibe: Nein, das macht keinen Sinn...
RE: EVA "qo" in 15th century Spanish cipher - Aga Tentakulus - 26-08-2026
If you can put something into practice, then it makes sense.
Whether it’s right or not is another matter.
It makes no sense not to want something just because it doesn’t suit you.
Pre-school age: ‘I don’t want to, I don’t want to, no, no, no.’
RE: EVA "qo" in 15th century Spanish cipher - JoJo_Jost - 26-08-2026
(26-08-2026, 05:24 PM)Aga Tentakulus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.If you can put something into practice, then it makes sense.
Whether it’s right or not is another matter.
It makes no sense not to want something just because it doesn’t suit you.
Pre-school age: ‘I don’t want to, I don’t want to, no, no, no.’
It doesn't make any more sense to see something just because you want it to be that way. I want, I want, I want it to be that way...
Arguments like that won't get us anywhere, Aga...
Genausowenig macht es Sinn, etwas zu sehen, weil du willst, dass es so ist. Ich will, ich will, ich will, dass es so ist...
Mit solchen Argumenten kommen wir nicht weiter Aga...
RE: EVA "qo" in 15th century Spanish cipher - Aga Tentakulus - 26-08-2026
(26-08-2026, 04:46 PM)JoJo_Jost Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.@ Aga This is the last thing I'm going to write about this: No, that doesn't make any sense....sorry...You simply don’t want to write about it because it doesn’t meet your expectations.
(26-08-2026, 06:42 PM)JoJo_Jost Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It doesn't make any more sense to see something just because you want it to be that way. I want, I want, I want it to be that way...
You saw it yourself, and you gave an example yourself.
Arguments like that really don’t get us anywhere.
RE: EVA "qo" in 15th century Spanish cipher - JoJo_Jost - 26-08-2026
@ Aga, no, I’ll stop arguing when we start going in circles. If I stop, it doesn’t mean I’m convinced, or because it doesn’t meet my expectations!
And I’m not convinced because Latin doesn’t fit the VMS in so many different ways. The highly organized structure of the VMS is so extremely different from Latin. If you’d actually take the time to look into the statistical structures of the VMS, you’d see that too, but you don’t want to because you don’t believe in it—because it doesn’t fit your theory...
But go ahead then—show us meaningful translations of a VMS text in YOUR thread...
RE: [split] Aga Tentakulus' Logical System - Aga Tentakulus - 27-08-2026
(26-08-2026, 07:27 PM)JoJo_Jost Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.@ Aga, no, I’ll stop arguing when we start going in circles.
Now that’s a sensible approach for a change.
We’re not just going round in circles, after all.
If it’s ‘qo’ (qui), then that’s the mother.
Now we look at all the relatives. They’re all here. It’s like Christmas. The whole family’s coming.
If I remove the ‘q’ from ‘quis’, what remains is ‘ol’ (is).
‘is’ – see the dictionary.
If I put an ‘l’ before ‘ol’ (sis), see the dictionary.
Koen might like that. It means ‘take’.
If the ‘o’ stands alone (i), it is an article. If the “l” stands alone, see the dictionary. (si), written out as “lo”
Question: How do you transcribe a letter that only appears at the start of a word in the VM text into German? This isn’t possible in German, apart from “Q”. But there are far too many “Qs” in German. How do you explain that?
And so it goes on, step by step.
RE: [split] Aga Tentakulus' Logical System - JoJo_Jost - 27-08-2026
Well, since you don’t seem to realize that “qui” is also overrepresented in all its forms in the VMS, I’ll rephrase the question.
How do you explain this:
This shows how many glyphs the VM needs to cover a position in a word, broken down by the length of the different words, to reach at least 40 percent.
That’s incredibly few.
Latin needs SIGNIFICANTLY more here:
How can you explain this significant difference—without using a cipher that drastically (!) alters the text? I’d really like to know.
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German:
Gut, da du nicht erkennst, dass auch qui in allen Formen im VMS überrepräsentiert wäre, stelle ich die Frage anders.
Wie erklärst du dir das:
Grafik 1
Da zeigt wieviel Glyphen das VM braucht um eine Position im Wort abzudecken, aufgeschlüsset nach der Wortlänge der unterschiedlichen Wörter, um mind. 40 Prozent zu erreichen.
Das ist brutal wenig.
Latin brauch hier WESENTLICH mehr:
Grafik 2
Wir kannst du - ohne eine den Text stark (!) verändernde Chiffre - diesen erheblichen Unterschied erklären. Das würde mich wirklich interessieren.
RE: [split] Aga Tentakulus' Logical System - Aga Tentakulus - 27-08-2026
(27-08-2026, 05:38 AM)JoJo_Jost Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Well, since you don’t seem to realize that “qui” is also overrepresented in all its forms in the VMS, I’ll rephrase the question.
How do you explain this:
I’ll explain it very simply.
You don’t know all the different things ‘qui’ can stand for. See the dictionary.
I’ll also explain to you that you can keep your statistics to yourself, because they’re worthless.
I’ll also explain that you’re just whingeing and arguing against Latin, but never give any examples of German (Bavarian). Apart from your statistics, which are worthless and prove nothing.
What is ‘4o’ supposed to mean in German?
Keep your statistics to yourself and provide facts.
Quo vadis?