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RE: [split] Log man - Koen G - 08-05-2020
We are well acquainted with medieval uterus imagery.
Please try to stay on-topic, this is already a thread I split off another one where you went off-topic.
RE: [split] Log man - ReneZ - 08-05-2020
How about the medieval equivalent of a floating pool bar, with a guy leaning on it with his elbow?
RE: [split] Log man - Aga Tentakulus - 08-05-2020
@Koen
If it is familiar to you, then you should also know that this is not a sea, river or pool.
Just because it looks that way doesn't mean it is.
That fits the theme perfectly.
It's not about uterus, it's about symbolism.
I think a bath or water therapy is a possibility.
But I think the change from the colour blue to green is the result of a procedure.
Since we do not search in a Bible, water does not become wine either.
However, a process seems to be underway.
RE: [split] Log man - Koen G - 08-05-2020
There is nothing special about green water in medieval images. The concept that water must be blue simply did not exist yet, and both green and blue were fine. The concept of blue as a completely separate color and not just something close to green is a relatively new development (in Homer's time, the Greek language likely did not even have a word for blue).
Of course in the Middle Ages, people differentiated between blue and green (think of all the symbolism around the different colors), but water was still perfectly fine in green. Just google "medieval map" or look at the many colors of water in this article: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
RE: [split] Log man - Aga Tentakulus - 08-05-2020
Interesting reading.
It is not the colour alone that makes me think, it is rather the change of colour and where it takes place.
So in your example in Matthew Paris's map of Britain.
Saltwater light and fresh water dark. Whether this is intentional or coincidental I cannot say. But it is there, and where the exchange takes place is logical.
That's how I see it in the pharmaceutical part. I don't see coincidence, there's purpose behind it. But I don't know why he's doing it.
RE: [split] Log man - Linda - 08-05-2020
I think that in the vms blue is fresh water, green is mineralized or salt water. So log man would be in a sea.
RE: [split] Log man - Aga Tentakulus - 08-05-2020
Is it salt water, so it's sea water?
There are springs in the Alps where since the Celts and Romans are known.
Salt water comes directly from the mountain. Some of it smells like rotten eggs. Some have a temperature of 40 degrees.
A famous salt spring is in the south of France near the Pyrenees, near the Spanish border.
Salt does not necessarily mean sea.
RE: [split] Log man - -JKP- - 09-05-2020
It could be hot water (thermal springs) and cold water. Many natural spas have both.
RE: [split] Log man - Aga Tentakulus - 09-05-2020
You could say that it is a thermal bath, mineral water, cold or hot. River, lake, or sea.
But there's a catch.
F79r .If I trace the run back where the liquid comes from and what it goes through, I have to seriously think about what it is.
From alchemy to therapy?
RE: [split] Log man - Aga Tentakulus - 09-05-2020
Go on.....
If you look at different pictures, you can recognize a direction of flow.
Normally something falls from the top to the bottom. But sometimes it is exactly the other way round. The direction of the waves give this away.
The man didn't just draw, he thought of something.
So much can be said about 1 picture when I think about it.
The environment is as important as the picture alone.