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RE: Month names collection / metastudy - Bernd - 30-06-2026
Yes indeed. I think this is also something we should consider - Latin documents translated to German. But I'd also agree the VM month labels don't look Latin.
RE: Month names collection / metastudy - Koen G - 30-06-2026
Eggy: I would personally focus on linguistic border regions. Maybe the northen areas between French and middle high German. It would require some digging to find what those are...
RE: Month names collection / metastudy - Zauriek - 01-07-2026
(30-06-2026, 03:36 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.There is no other text to provoke the use of a genitive.
What IF there is a reason to use a modifier like a genitive to certain marginalia months names in the VM, a reason given by the voyniches text itself, ergo a sentence that the marginalia scriba could actually read. [Is vage spectulation but this idea could be huge. Maybe keep in the air?] In that case, there should be a visual diference [like some short of crib] when comparing the diagrams of each month names. [Due the nature of the vm it may not necesarily be a clear word or may be.]
RE: Month names collection / metastudy - Koen G - 01-07-2026
But the month labels aren't in any sort of genitive, that's the whole point. They are simple, unmodified base nouns in a vernacular, as would be expected of standalone labels. So this is like the last thing we need to worry about.
RE: Month names collection / metastudy - Zauriek - 01-07-2026
(01-07-2026, 02:44 PM)Koen G Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.But the month labels aren't in any sort of genitive, that's the whole point. They are simple, unmodified base nouns in a vernacular, as would be expected of standalone labels. So this is like the last thing we need to worry about.Okey; Also haven't found anything of "strange discrepancy" in the diagrams of april, july and august compared with the others; they are all equally strange and weird as usuall.
RE: Month names collection / metastudy - sōlstəs - 02-07-2026
Ciao and bom dia, i just woke up and had to see, that my contributions here disappeared. Where did my suggestions for the months May and September go? Is there a bug? Even Stolfis answer is deleted, and the one from the admin as well. How can we restore the information? I have a PDF print from the whole page, but I am not allowed to upload any file. Are all functions working properly?
RE: Month names collection / metastudy - Koen G - 02-07-2026
Your post was off-topic and resulted in a whole chain of posts necessary to explain to you what's going on. Stolfi's post said you're being off-topic. You complain that our posts explaining this to you are gone, and then go off-topic again?
RE: Month names collection / metastudy - eggyk - 06-07-2026
Funny enough, while going though the bull-zodiac spreadsheet some of the manuscipts had not yet been found and added for the month names. There's actually a couple of interesting sequences near the top of the bull ratings. A voynichy bull - aberel/abrell connection perhaps?
Actually, in all seriousness, it may actually be noteworthy that the top entries in that sheet contain some of these variants. It would make sense that a manuscript made in that area would contain the imagery and language that was common to the area. Even if the marginalia is later, the manuscript may simply not have moved very far. Pure speculation though.
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1443
Germany S, Buchau (Diocese Constance)
mertze
abrellen
mayen
brauchet
hoewmonet
augste / ougsten
herbstmonet
andn' herbstmonet
dritten herbstmonet
wintt'monet
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1425
Germany S, Meßkirch (Diocese Constance)
mertz
aberelle
maÿ
brachat
hoewat
ougst
erst herbstmonat
ander herbstmonat
dritt herbstmonat
wintermonat
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Edit: garlonga also found another red bull-abrelle in that thread, interesting.
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1445AD
France E, Alsace (Stasbourg/Basel/Alsace S)
mertze
abrelle
meye / maius
brochmonot
hǒwemonot
ougst / ǒgst
erst herbstmonot / september
ander herbstmonot / october
dirte herbstmonot / nouember
wintermonot / december